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I'm tired of this overemphasis on diversity spilling into our entertainment.

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Forced diversity will only make people resent diversity and stir clear of entertainment mediums that are infected with social justice.



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Snoopy said:
the-pi-guy said:

I'm wondering how on Earth, the Death Note movie has anything to do with this thread.  

 

Movie was a tragedy, and L was almost a highlight.  

The character "L" seemed force for diversity reason imo. Completly different from the anime show.

The entire cast is ethnically different from the anime. 

What makes L more forced than Light?  



Here is my suggestion for you:

Step 1) Open up Microsoft Word.

Step 2) Start writing your masterpiece.

Step 3) Get it produced and cast who you want.



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Please Watch/Share this video so it gets shown in Hollywood.

What's wrong with making someone gay or female for the sake of being that? That's a way to create depth for a character, and even if it doesn't add much to the story it helps bring a sense of liveliness to the world to give mundane details. Also, it seems that in your mind someone being straight or white or male or whatever is the default, so if someone decides to do forego that they're going to automatically get extra scrutiny and will either pass or fail the seemingly arbitrary test of whether or not this diversity is acceptable.



You know what scares me more since ghost busters was an all female cast I'm scared they'll rewrite star wars and have darth vader female ?



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VGPolyglot said:
What's wrong with making someone gay or female for the sake of being that? That's a way to create depth for a character, and even if it doesn't add much to the story it helps bring a sense of liveliness to the world to give mundane details. Also, it seems that in your mind someone being straight or white or male or whatever is the default, so if someone decides to do forego that they're going to automatically get extra scrutiny and will either pass or fail the seemingly arbitrary test of whether or not this diversity is acceptable.

How is being straight or male any less deep? That's not a way to add depth to a character on the contrary it's a way to make a character feel shallow. If the reason they are there is due to race, orentaorien, or gender then by definition that is shallow and the character lacks depth because they're reason for being there is due to their orentaorien, gender or sex. 

 

Depth to a character is added through conflict. And if the setting is right that conflict can be attributed to their race, gender, ethnicity or what ever else. 

 

But putting a female character instead of a male character does not add depth to the character itself or the world, and the concept of that is ridiculous. 



bananaking21 said:
VGPolyglot said:
What's wrong with making someone gay or female for the sake of being that? That's a way to create depth for a character, and even if it doesn't add much to the story it helps bring a sense of liveliness to the world to give mundane details. Also, it seems that in your mind someone being straight or white or male or whatever is the default, so if someone decides to do forego that they're going to automatically get extra scrutiny and will either pass or fail the seemingly arbitrary test of whether or not this diversity is acceptable.

How is being straight or male any less deep? That's not a way to add depth to a character on the contrary it's a way to make a character feel shallow. If the reason they are there is due to race, orentaorien, or gender then by definition that is shallow and the character lacks depth because they're reason for being there is due to their orentaorien, gender or sex. 

 

Depth to a character is added through conflict. And if the setting is right that conflict can be attributed to their race, gender, ethnicity or what ever else. 

 

But putting a female character instead of a male character does not add depth to the character itself or the world, and the concept of that is ridiculous. 

I didn't say that being straight or male was less deep, in fact if you read my whole post my meaning was very clear. If a character is straight or male nobody bats an eye because it's the "default" and people just expect it, but when they are not it is noticed and thus placed under special scrutiny, and for some reason has to be deemed relevant or understandable whereas for the default they don't have to face the same test.



the-pi-guy said:
1. How do you know they are less talented? I'm not seeing this big fall in quality due to more females in the process. But there are plenty of women who get passed over despite being just as good as their male counterpart.

2. This point doesn't really make any sense. Why is being a woman being done for inclusion, while being a man isn't? If the gender doesnt matter, why does it matter if the main characters are female?

Even including stuff like homosexuality. What does it matter? It's a characteristization, in which case it doesn't matter.
Or it's part of the story, in which case that's their right to change their story however they see fit.

3. Yep. Everyone is in favor of that.

At the end of the day, movies, games, etc are made by companies that want to maximize how much they are making. If that means that if enough people want to see a change over not seeing that change, they are going to make that change (or not) to make their bottom line better.

1. That's the point isn't it? We have no clue if they're better yet because of this forced diversity movement, just hire the woman anyway whether she's as good as the other guy or not. Isn't that what's going on? It's like companies have token positions for certain types of people simply to fill the slot and be labeled as diverse.

 

2. Yes, if the homosexual nature or change of character into female is part of the story. But what if it isn't? The two examples I mentioned, Ghostbusters and Troy fall of a city, show it well.

 

Ghostbusters went all female. For what? Does it make a difference whether they're female or male? No, they did it just to force the concept of a female Ghostbusters team. It's not because we needed female leads because the story is female driven. In fact, it's a movie about shooting energy weapons that take a lot of strength. Look at the original Ghostbusters, how the actors struggled to fire those weapons. So basically, change it so that the weapons require no effort so we can be "inclusive". The fact is those roles didn't need to be all female. Mix them then if you want. But why all female? Just forced diversity.

 

And homosexual Achilles. Really? Do I need to explain this nonsense? It's a blatant effort to just add a homosexual character in the show. That's why his character sucked. It doesn't fit. It simply doesn't. In the show, he's constantly ridiculed for his homosexuality, but in the original, he's supposed to be this admired conquering hero. How does that make sense? It's clear they just decided to make his character like that for forced diversity. I have nothing against having a homosexual character but why do you have to force it when it simply doesn't fit?



sony santa monica in 10 years will probably make another god of war but have kratos female and call it alt timeline alt main god of war game since ghost busters?



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I see it now when just like ghost busters going back to the classics and remaking a beloved franchise in 10 years from like ghost busters back in 80's had sony go back to ghost busters make'm female in the year 2010's i see disney mimicing sony trip to making a female cast star wars remake in 10 more years also make peter pan into a girl remake and the kid in the jungle book into female it could happen ?



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