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quickrick on 08 January 2018
CGI-Quality said:
quickrick said:

I'm talking about mobile entrainment like the internet and gaming, people will likely not pick up a handheld like the ds/3ds, because kids and adults already have great entertainment on the go on there cell phones,  that didn't exist during the ds era, is this so hard to understand?

As for the second part my example of N64 was US it wasn't' a failure , but its started off amazing, especially for it's time. and only finished at 20 million.

When you don't have solid reasoning, yes it is hard to understand. The mobile talk is more nonsense, as the 3DS and Switch sell just fine despite those devices (the latter of the two, once again, continues to break records). 

Next, it is though, because you're saying the Switch has a higher chance of repeating what the N64 did because Nintendo's platforms run out of steam faster. Problem is, you're using devices with totally different track records to attempt to make this point. One reason (among many) why you've been challenged by so many people in here.

Outside of what is obviously a serious distaste for Nintendo, you've not provided any reason why the Switch can't continue to be the major success story that it is.

the mobile talk is none sense? almost every single gaming analyst has said mobile  is killing handheld gaming, thats' why 3ds, and vita saw a huge decline, but what ever you're the only smart one it seems. as for switch breaking records lets see how it continues to do. i expected switch to have amazing first year sales, i just don't expect it to last long at all.



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quickrick on 08 January 2018
PortisheadBiscuit said:
quickrick said:

I expect the decline to continue that's why, as mobile entrainment, and gaming are much better then when 3ds launched. 

I repeat, Switch is not the 3DS. You couldn't play games like Skyrim and Doom on 3DS nor can you on an iphone. People want more than just Pet Rescue and Candy Crush. 

those games are not the reason switch is selling, it's mainly nintedo games selling switch.



quickrick on 08 January 2018
CGI-Quality said:
quickrick said:

the mobile talk is none sense? almost every single gaming analyst has said mobile  is killing handheld gaming, thats' why 3ds, and vita saw a huge decline, but what ever you're the only smart one it seems. as for switch breaking records lets how it continues to do.

It doesn't take a "smart one" to understand this business and what it entails. 

Now, on to this "almost every single gaming analyst has said mobile is killing handheld gaming" talk. A quick Google search didn't yield what you're claiming, instead, offering a mix of perspectives. But then, some of these people are the same ones that claimed console gaming was dying. Is that true too?

I mean the numbers already prove the analysts are right, vita, and 3ds will end up what 88 million? that's a huge decline from around 240 million. the decline on console gaming won't even come close to that. sony already stopped making hand helds so what does that tell you?



zorg1000 on 08 January 2018
quickrick said:
CGI-Quality said:

It doesn't take a "smart one" to understand this business and what it entails. 

Now, on to this "almost every single gaming analyst has said mobile is killing handheld gaming" talk. A quick Google search didn't yield what you're claiming, instead, offering a mix of perspectives. But then, some of these people are the same ones that claimed console gaming was dying. Is that true too?

I mean the numbers already prove the analysts are right, vita, and 3ds will end up what 88 million? that's a huge decline from around 240 million. the decline on console gaming won't even come close to that.

What were handheld gaming numbers like pre-DS/PSP?



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

quickrick on 08 January 2018
zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

I mean the numbers already prove the analysts are right, vita, and 3ds will end up what 88 million? that's a huge decline from around 240 million. the decline on console gaming won't even come close to that.

What were handheld gaming numbers like pre-DS/PSP?

130 million with gameboy and game gear.



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zorg1000 on 08 January 2018
quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

What were handheld gaming numbers like pre-DS/PSP?

130 million with gameboy and game gear.

Gameboy was 2 generations and what about the other generation between Gameboy & DS?



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

quickrick on 08 January 2018
CGI-Quality said:
quickrick said:

I mean the numbers already prove the analysts are right, vita, and 3ds will end up what 88 million? that's a huge decline from around 240 million. the decline on console gaming won't even come close to that.

The Vita? What killed that was Nintendo & Sony. Lack of strong enough content from the latter while being a punching bag for the former. That is not an example of mobile gaming killing handhelds. 

I can't speak for what the 3DS will "end up selling" - it's still doing just fine and there's no sign of it dying off any time soon. Of course, this also ignores the Switch (currently, a highly sought after home console/handheld hybrid trading blows with the fastest selling console in history).

i've showed you enough examples. it's the by far the worst selling generation for handheld gaming. we'll agree to disagree, this is getting boring. 



quickrick on 08 January 2018
zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

130 million with gameboy and game gear.

Gameboy was 2 generations and what about the other generation between Gameboy & DS?

nintendo considers them same genration as they played the same games.



zorg1000 on 08 January 2018
quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

Gameboy was 2 generations and what about the other generation between Gameboy & DS?

nintendo considers them same genration as they played the same games.

Ok and what about the 2nd part of my post?



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quickrick on 08 January 2018
CGI-Quality said:
quickrick said:

i've showed you enough examples. it's the by far the worst selling generation for handheld gaming. we'll agree to disagree, this is getting boring. 

My eyes must be deceiving me. I don't see any examples (meaning data, not your predictions) from you about how mobile is killing handhelds. The GBA/DS to Vita/3DS doesn't work for the reasons I stated.

what was your reason?