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fatslob-:O said:
Meh, if it means being able to provide better service then I'm okay with it ...

Net neutrality is mostly fiction to begin with since not all digital data is considered even so the sites with the highest amount of traffic is bound to have a "fast and favourited" path while the rest is just either "normal" or "slow" ...

Well no. You will only get a better service if you are willing to pay more for it.
It's essentially a Microtransactions/DLC scheme for your internet connection, it hasn't been a good thing for gaming, it won't be a good thing for the internet.

The internet is perfectly fine as it is... And as the old saying goes... "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!".



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Pemalite said:

Well no. You will only get a better service if you are willing to pay more for it.
It's essentially a Microtransactions/DLC scheme for your internet connection, it hasn't been a good thing for gaming, it won't be a good thing for the internet.

The internet is perfectly fine as it is... And as the old saying goes... "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!".

There are actually technical merits forgoing net neutrality ... 

Those who want the bare minimum can purchase service at a lower cost and those that want premium or customizations will pay as much as they see appropriately needed ... 

It may not be consumer friendly but there's more options so to speak to meet specific needs or use cases ... 

There's also another saying that goes "life is not without compromise" so it's up to each individual as to how much effort to procure needs as well as luxury's such as telecommunications ... 



fatslob-:O said:

There are actually technical merits forgoing net neutrality ... 

Those who want the bare minimum can purchase service at a lower cost and those that want premium or customizations will pay as much as they see appropriately needed ... 

It may not be consumer friendly but there's more options so to speak to meet specific needs or use cases ... 

There's also another saying that goes "life is not without compromise" so it's up to each individual as to how much effort to procure needs as well as luxury's such as telecommunications ... 

Or. They could offer the lot for a lower price, these telecommunications companies rake in the billions, it's not like they are doing it difficult financially.

Just remember... If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And nothing is broke yet.



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Hiku said: 



 

Is this a joke? 17.99 + 8.99 + 14.99 + 12.99 = 54.96, which is less than 54.99. Even if I bought all the bundles in this graphic, I'd still be better off without Net Neutrality.

My nan could be even better off, she could opt out of the gaming and video packages. Pretty great for those on fixed incomes.

Netflix accounts for 36% of all internet traffic. That means it accounts for a substantial portion of the costs involved in maintaining an internet service. I gave up my subscription to Netflix long ago, why is my (very highly priced) Internet bill subsidizing others?

Net Neutrality doesn't exist in the mobile phone market, which is why we get great deals on companies like T-Mobile are legally able to offer services like this: https://www.t-mobile.com/offer/binge-on-streaming-video-list.html



SamuelRSmith said:
Hiku said: 



 

Is this a joke? 17.99 + 8.99 + 14.99 + 12.99 = 54.96, which is less than 54.99. Even if I bought all the bundles in this graphic, I'd still be better off without Net Neutrality.

My nan could be even better off, she could opt out of the gaming and video packages. Pretty great for those on fixed incomes.

Netflix accounts for 36% of all internet traffic. That means it accounts for a substantial portion of the costs involved in maintaining an internet service. I gave up my subscription to Netflix long ago, why is my (very highly priced) Internet bill subsidizing others?

Net Neutrality doesn't exist in the mobile phone market, which is why we get great deals on companies like T-Mobile are legally able to offer services like this: https://www.t-mobile.com/offer/binge-on-streaming-video-list.html

Mobile deals are shit here for data, even the $400 a month plan doesn't give unlimited data with my provider.



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SamuelRSmith said:

Is this a joke? 17.99 + 8.99 + 14.99 + 12.99 = 54.96, which is less than 54.99. Even if I bought all the bundles in this graphic, I'd still be better off without Net Neutrality.

My nan could be even better off, she could opt out of the gaming and video packages. Pretty great for those on fixed incomes.

Netflix accounts for 36% of all internet traffic. That means it accounts for a substantial portion of the costs involved in maintaining an internet service. I gave up my subscription to Netflix long ago, why is my (very highly priced) Internet bill subsidizing others?

Net Neutrality doesn't exist in the mobile phone market, which is why we get great deals on companies like T-Mobile are legally able to offer services like this: https://www.t-mobile.com/offer/binge-on-streaming-video-list.html

The graph fails to mention that you would still be paying a base price for internet unless if you want ISPs to control what websites you are allowed to visit. If you only use one intensive service such as video streaming then such a system would benefit you because you would only have to be paying for unlimited bandwidth based on only one service. However if you are someone like me who downloads a lot of games from Steam, streams a lot of video, does a lot of generic downloads then chances are I will be paying more under this system than my generic unlimited bandwidth plan.

Secondly if a service is not offered unlimited by my ISP to be unlimited such as say foreign or small streaming then I guess I am just out of luck.

Last edited by Leadified - on 25 November 2017

ISPs already can offer connection taylored to different usesd without adding limitations to users, that using their connection will simply have the best for their money when accessing services more suitable to it, while using other services they'd simply get lower performances, but they wouldn't be blocked. Also, even now users enjoy better performances accessing contents hosted on their provider's servers, lower ping and higher bandwidth.
Typically current basic offers in high bandwidth connections are most suitable for streaming and other services with low interactivity, as download bandwidth, the number most boasted by ISPs as it's almost always the highest, is the only good one, while Ping is nothing special and upload bandwidth almost always is quite low.
A good gaming oriented connection would need higher upload bandwidth and lower ping, and these are typically features of premium connectivity offers even i those not taylored for gaming.
All this can already be done without ending net neutrality, lessening users rights and freedom for ISPs' greed shouldn't be accepted.



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VGPolyglot said:
SamuelRSmith said:

 

Is this a joke? 17.99 + 8.99 + 14.99 + 12.99 = 54.96, which is less than 54.99. Even if I bought all the bundles in this graphic, I'd still be better off without Net Neutrality.

My nan could be even better off, she could opt out of the gaming and video packages. Pretty great for those on fixed incomes.

Netflix accounts for 36% of all internet traffic. That means it accounts for a substantial portion of the costs involved in maintaining an internet service. I gave up my subscription to Netflix long ago, why is my (very highly priced) Internet bill subsidizing others?

Net Neutrality doesn't exist in the mobile phone market, which is why we get great deals on companies like T-Mobile are legally able to offer services like this: https://www.t-mobile.com/offer/binge-on-streaming-video-list.html

Mobile deals are shit here for data, even the $400 a month plan doesn't give unlimited data with my provider.

I use Project Fi, it's brilliant. $10 a gb. Unlimited deals are almost always a bad deal, most users will never use more than 2gb in any given month. I'm a heavy data user - Spotify Premium (2+ hr per weekday), social media, Youtube, and have never used more than 3gb.

 https://fi.google.com/about/plan/?gclid=CjwKCAiAxuTQBRBmEiwAAkFF1jpuTZD7QzAEyNjrueTd2tO4Q_VGM5WvMQ-D2EzS63RflfinaJ429RoClR4QAvD_BwE&dclid=CI_6_--N29cCFcMUgQod3VoP1Q



Pemalite said:

Or. They could offer the lot for a lower price, these telecommunications companies rake in the billions, it's not like they are doing it difficult financially.

Just remember... If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And nothing is broke yet.

Except big US telecommunications companies such as AT&T and Verizon have net profit margins 8.1% and 10.4% respectively so their hardly making a killing ...

They rake in billions but they also spend billions too to improve infrastructure and service ... 



fatslob-:O said:
Pemalite said:

Or. They could offer the lot for a lower price, these telecommunications companies rake in the billions, it's not like they are doing it difficult financially.

Just remember... If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And nothing is broke yet.

Except big US telecommunications companies such as AT&T and Verizon have net profit margins 8.1% and 10.4% respectively so their hardly making a killing ...

They rake in billions but they also spend billions too to improve infrastructure and service ... 

I'd consider making billions to be a killing.