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Cerebralbore101 on 16 May 2017
Captain_Yuri said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Currently I'm sitting at $335 before the cost of windows, just for something comparable to the regular PS4. It would probably be around $320 if I went for a 1TB HD though.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YpJVPs

By the love of god, do not use Logisys power supply. Your computer will explode after 5 days.

Also that entire build is just weird and not very good at all.

Why in god's name would you pay $100 for a 7 year old GPU when you can get a modern Nvidia 1050 for the same price? And there are a lot of other weird stuff with your build like a case fan and thermalpaste..

This is a much better build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZQ2R9W


I didn't think the stock fan was very good so I went for a $5 fan that was bigger. Thermal paste was just trying to cover all the bases. My friend says that if you don't get thermal paste you are asking for trouble. Some of the parts are wierd and wonky, because I was trying to get something *only* as powerful as a basic PS4, while keeping the price as low as possible.

It really doesn't matter because the CPU prices between our builds are about the same, but how does a dual core 3.5 Ghz compare to the 8 core 1.6 Ghz in a PS4? Does hyperthreading really make that big of a difference?



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 16 May 2017
Cerebralbore101 said:
Captain_Yuri said:

By the love of god, do not use Logisys power supply. Your computer will explode after 5 days.

Also that entire build is just weird and not very good at all.

Why in god's name would you pay $100 for a 7 year old GPU when you can get a modern Nvidia 1050 for the same price? And there are a lot of other weird stuff with your build like a case fan and thermalpaste..

This is a much better build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZQ2R9W


I didn't think the stock fan was very good so I went for a $5 fan that was bigger. Thermal paste was just trying to cover all the bases. My friend says that if you don't get thermal paste you are asking for trouble. Some of the parts are wierd and wonky, because I was trying to get something *only* as powerful as a basic PS4, while keeping the price as low as possible.

It really doesn't matter because the CPU prices between our builds are about the same, but how does a dual core 3.5 Ghz compare to the 8 core 1.6 Ghz in a PS4? Does hyperthreading really make that big of a difference?

It's not about hyperthreading but efficiency. The ps4's cores are weak sauce cores, having 8 of them means nothing. On desktop, the closest we have is the A6-5200. It is a quad core running at 2.0ghz (vs ps4's 1.6ghz) but the performance difference is giant compared to the pentium.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-A6-5200-APU-vs-Intel-Pentium-G4620/m4574vs3895

And it does matter because the prices doesn't tell the entire story... The Pentium is way faster than the CPU you choose.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-A8-7600-APU-vs-Intel-Pentium-G4620/m14050vs3895



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

Cerebralbore101 on 16 May 2017
Captain_Yuri said:
Cerebralbore101 said:


I didn't think the stock fan was very good so I went for a $5 fan that was bigger. Thermal paste was just trying to cover all the bases. My friend says that if you don't get thermal paste you are asking for trouble. Some of the parts are wierd and wonky, because I was trying to get something *only* as powerful as a basic PS4, while keeping the price as low as possible.

It really doesn't matter because the CPU prices between our builds are about the same, but how does a dual core 3.5 Ghz compare to the 8 core 1.6 Ghz in a PS4? Does hyperthreading really make that big of a difference?

It's not about hyperthreading but efficiency. The ps4's cores are weak sauce cores, having 8 of them means nothing. On desktop, the closest we have is the A6-5200. It is a quad core running at 2.0ghz (vs ps4's 1.6ghz) but the performance difference is giant compared to the pentium.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-A6-5200-APU-vs-Intel-Pentium-G4620/m4574vs3895

And it does matter because the prices doesn't tell the entire story... The Pentium is way faster than the CPU you choose.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-A8-7600-APU-vs-Intel-Pentium-G4620/m14050vs3895

I don't get it. Why can't 8 cores do the same amount of work as two faster cores? If you have two cores working at oh say 1 Ghz vs eight cores working at 500 Mhz isn't that equal? Isn't 0.5 Ghz times eight the same as 1 Ghz times two?



Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 16 May 2017
Cerebralbore101 said:
Captain_Yuri said:

It's not about hyperthreading but efficiency. The ps4's cores are weak sauce cores, having 8 of them means nothing. On desktop, the closest we have is the A6-5200. It is a quad core running at 2.0ghz (vs ps4's 1.6ghz) but the performance difference is giant compared to the pentium.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-A6-5200-APU-vs-Intel-Pentium-G4620/m4574vs3895

And it does matter because the prices doesn't tell the entire story... The Pentium is way faster than the CPU you choose.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-A8-7600-APU-vs-Intel-Pentium-G4620/m14050vs3895

I don't get it. Why can't 8 cores do the same amount of work as two faster cores?

Cause takes longer for them to execute tasks and workloads and the architecture on the pentium is way faster.



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

Cerebralbore101 on 16 May 2017
Captain_Yuri said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

I don't get it. Why can't 8 cores do the same amount of work as two faster cores?

Cause takes longer for them to execute tasks and workloads and the architecture on the pentium is way faster.

Ah ok. So to use a race analogy, the Pentium knows several shortcuts, and the other processors take the longer route to the finish line. Makes sense now. Thanks.

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/3707150 This is what I have right now. Would really like to upgrade so that Civ VI doesn't take a whole minute between turns late game. Any suggestions?



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Kerotan on 16 May 2017

I'd say it will get 1 or 2



vivster on 17 May 2017
Chazore said:
Well we've already heard it from the guy who knows AAA gaming more than anyone else on the site

AAA gaming just "doesn't work" on PC's because reasons, let's toss Crysis in there for lulz (Totally not the studios own fault, let's blame PC gamers instead, yeah that sounds much better and logical).

Something something pirates.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 17 May 2017

Triple A is overrated!



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Conina on 17 May 2017

I prefer Double D games ;)