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Turkish said:

The AAA model doesn't work on PC, the market is too small to sustain such big budgets. The last game that tried it was Crysis is in 2007 and the devs went multiplat afterwards.

None of the RTS games are anywhere close to the budgets of a Horizon or Zeruda. They're at most AA.

The only time it'll work is with customer funded games like Star Citizen, which seems to becoming vaporware. They seem to add more novel gameplay elements that are exclusively designed for a ship, heard there's now a ship where u can grow stuff to sell on the market or something? How wrong people were 3 years ago it would be finished by 2016 lol, now 2020 doesn't look so sure. They should put all their effort into making the singleplayer game first, ship it and then work on the MMO part. What is this lunacy where they have a few public showings every year and instead of looking closer to release it just gets bigger! Some of these things they can easily do with expansions and post game support!

A shame tho, would be amazing if a game was designed entirely around the latest gpu with the lowest entry poiny a gtx 1070. Imagine a short Kite demo like platformer.

Pretty sure production values and budget are relative to the genre... For example, a kart racing game like mario kart 8 won't have the same production values as Zelda yet both are considered to be AAA games... And yes, RTS games can have high production values by having cutscenes, voice acting and cinamatic stuff like with sc2. Is it as high as Horizon or Zelda? No... But those are open world games... By that logic, Doom/Dishonored/etc aren't AAA games because they don't cost as much as horizon does...



                  

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zero129 said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

If you can build a 1080p 60 FPS PC that will run every new AAA game like that for the next four years, then make a list on PCpartpicker and do it. Don't forget the operating system, cost of shipping the parts, and you need at least a 1TB harddrive (otherwise you're just deleting and reinstalling games too often.) Finally every part needs to be actually available to buy, and not just listed. If a part is out of stock it doesn't count. As per your post your price limit is $500. If you can do it I'll be proven wrong and pleasantly surprised.

There's far more than 1 or 2 games per year per system. Critics and fans alike agree that those games are way better than average.

The has been plenty of Threads and topics on VGC going back the last 3 or so years doing what your asking.

In fact the was a thread on here not long ago that had a PC that could outmatch the PS4Pro for not much in the difference.

You gotta remember even a AMD R9-280 will play any 3rd party AAA exclusive at the "Same" settings as a PS4/Pro at 1080@60FPS.

Its when you start turning up GFX options thats when FPS can take a hit. But hey at least budget PC's have them options of playing the games with better FPS or better GFX or mixing the two.

Anyway im sick of people like you mouting off shit about PC as if you know the platform and then asking people to make you a list. Go make your own list or check one of the countless number of threads on VGC thats been made on this very subject. Or even better dont be bad mouthing a platform you know nothing about and talking about it as if you know for a fact about how much it would cost to build a PC.

And those builds always cut the corners that I already mentioned. No operating system, tiny harddrive, no cost of shipping etc.

Also, you are just shifting the burden of proof.

"THERE IS PLENTY OF EVIDENCE FOR X. I"M NOT GOING TO LIST THAT EVIDENCE! YOU JUST HAVE TO FIND IT FOR YOURSELF!".

That sort of talk is just code for "I have no evidence and am being lazy."



AAA is another unexplainable idea just like hardcore gamers. The PC simply has great good and bad games just like a console. Imho with what the pc has to offer in choices and options it is hard to go back to console.



Cerebralbore101 said:
zero129 said:

The has been plenty of Threads and topics on VGC going back the last 3 or so years doing what your asking.

In fact the was a thread on here not long ago that had a PC that could outmatch the PS4Pro for not much in the difference.

You gotta remember even a AMD R9-280 will play any 3rd party AAA exclusive at the "Same" settings as a PS4/Pro at 1080@60FPS.

Its when you start turning up GFX options thats when FPS can take a hit. But hey at least budget PC's have them options of playing the games with better FPS or better GFX or mixing the two.

Anyway im sick of people like you mouting off shit about PC as if you know the platform and then asking people to make you a list. Go make your own list or check one of the countless number of threads on VGC thats been made on this very subject. Or even better dont be bad mouthing a platform you know nothing about and talking about it as if you know for a fact about how much it would cost to build a PC.

And those builds always cut the corners that I already mentioned. No operating system, tiny harddrive, no cost of shipping etc.

Well, you can get windows 10 for like $30 from kinguin, 1TB hard drive costs $40-$50 ($5-$10 more than a 500gb) which most builds should have and the main reason that people use pcpartpicker is so that they can pricematch it with a store that is the closest to them and don't actually ship them individually. The only time shipping is involved is when it is free shipping which most stores will do if the order is like above $25-$100.



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

And those builds always cut the corners that I already mentioned. No operating system, tiny harddrive, no cost of shipping etc.

Well, you can get windows 10 for like $30 from kinguin, 1TB hard drive costs $40-$50 ($5-$10 more than a 500gb) which most builds should have and the main reason that people use pcpartpicker is so that they can pricematch it with a store that is the closest to them and don't actually ship them individually. The only time shipping is involved is when it is free shipping which most stores will do if the order is like above $25-$100.

Kinguin is... shady. I'd rather not take a chance on my copy of Windows being shut down after a month. 1TB is acceptable. A lot of people try to get away with 320 GB just to shave an extra $15-$20 off the total price. I'm not sure what kind of policy your local store has, but there are a ton of asterisks in my local Frys' price match policy. http://www.frys.com/utm_src/page006.jsp?utm_source=lowpriceguarantee&utm_medium=vanityurl&utm_campaign=lowpriceguaranteeoffline Basically they'll price match, but only certain sellers, and only if they get to count the cost of shipping etc.

 

[Tangent]Storage is a huge deal to me. Even my regular PS4 HardDrive is full from game updates, and I have a massive backlog. Honestly I need to go out and get a 1TB HDD for it just to store the updates. That is with all the games on the disk in the case. If I went all digital I would prefer a massive harddrive just to make sure I never had to delete anything and reinstall it. But I know most people aren't like me, so I think 1TB is just fine. Especially for a starter PC build. [/Tangent]



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Cerebralbore101 said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Well, you can get windows 10 for like $30 from kinguin, 1TB hard drive costs $40-$50 ($5-$10 more than a 500gb) which most builds should have and the main reason that people use pcpartpicker is so that they can pricematch it with a store that is the closest to them and don't actually ship them individually. The only time shipping is involved is when it is free shipping which most stores will do if the order is like above $25-$100.

Kinguin is... shady. I'd rather take a chance on my copy of Windows being shut down after a month. I'm not sure what kind of policy your local store has, but there are a ton of asterisks in my local Frys' price match policy. http://www.frys.com/utm_src/page006.jsp?utm_source=lowpriceguarantee&utm_medium=vanityurl&utm_campaign=lowpriceguaranteeoffline Basically they'll price match, but only certain sellers, and only if they get to count the cost of shipping etc.

Well, many people use Kinguin and Windows doesn't stop working for most people after a month... Reputable youtubers even recommended Kinguin as a way to get windows 10 and it also has a cheap protection plan if you are afraid. The store I go to is called memory express which also gives you a discount on top of matching your price but NCIX and many other stores also has a policy where as long as it is in stock, and the store is within the country, they will pricematch it. The great thing about stores is that there is more than one so if Fry's doesn't have good price match, then go to one that does. If you order from ncix or memory express, you can submit the price match online and pick it up instore or have it shipped to you.



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

Cerebralbore101 said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Well, you can get windows 10 for like $30 from kinguin, 1TB hard drive costs $40-$50 ($5-$10 more than a 500gb) which most builds should have and the main reason that people use pcpartpicker is so that they can pricematch it with a store that is the closest to them and don't actually ship them individually. The only time shipping is involved is when it is free shipping which most stores will do if the order is like above $25-$100.

 

[Tangent]Storage is a huge deal to me. Even my regular PS4 HardDrive is full from game updates, and I have a massive backlog. Honestly I need to go out and get a 1TB HDD for it just to store the updates. That is with all the games on the disk in the case. If I went all digital I would prefer a massive harddrive just to make sure I never had to delete anything and reinstall it. But I know most people aren't like me, so I think 1TB is just fine. Especially for a starter PC build. [/Tangent]

Well hard drives aren't very expensive.. A 500 gb will cost you $45, 1TB will cost you $50 and 2TB will cost you $60-$65 and all those are 7200 rpm.



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Kinguin is... shady. I'd rather take a chance on my copy of Windows being shut down after a month. I'm not sure what kind of policy your local store has, but there are a ton of asterisks in my local Frys' price match policy. http://www.frys.com/utm_src/page006.jsp?utm_source=lowpriceguarantee&utm_medium=vanityurl&utm_campaign=lowpriceguaranteeoffline Basically they'll price match, but only certain sellers, and only if they get to count the cost of shipping etc.

Well, many people use Kinguin and Windows doesn't stop working for most people after a month... Reputable youtubers even recommended Kinguin as a way to get windows 10 and it also has a cheap protection plan if you are afraid. The store I go to is called memory express which also gives you a discount on top of matching your price but NCIX and many other stores also has a policy where as long as it is in stock, and the store is within the country, they will pricematch it. The great thing about stores is that there is more than one so if Fry's doesn't have good price match, then go to one that does. If you order from ncix or memory express, you can submit the price match online and pick it up instore or have it shipped to you.

Memory express sounds like an awesome electronics store. I wish they were around me. NCIX has a policy that is similar to Frys', except they will take any retailer that is in the US. http://www.ncixus.com/products/pricematch.php?sku=3104 Does NCIX offer free shipping on big orders?

Ok I found it. So $32 for a legit copy of windows from Kinguin. Sounds good.



Captain_Yuri said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

 

[Tangent]Storage is a huge deal to me. Even my regular PS4 HardDrive is full from game updates, and I have a massive backlog. Honestly I need to go out and get a 1TB HDD for it just to store the updates. That is with all the games on the disk in the case. If I went all digital I would prefer a massive harddrive just to make sure I never had to delete anything and reinstall it. But I know most people aren't like me, so I think 1TB is just fine. Especially for a starter PC build. [/Tangent]

Well hard drives aren't very expensive.. A 500 gb will cost you $45, 1TB will cost you $50 and 2TB will cost you $60-$65 and all those are 7200 rpm.

And all of them provide much better loading times when you put them into a PC than if you use the same drives (internal or external) with a current console and play the console versions of the same games.



Cerebralbore101 said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Well, many people use Kinguin and Windows doesn't stop working for most people after a month... Reputable youtubers even recommended Kinguin as a way to get windows 10 and it also has a cheap protection plan if you are afraid. The store I go to is called memory express which also gives you a discount on top of matching your price but NCIX and many other stores also has a policy where as long as it is in stock, and the store is within the country, they will pricematch it. The great thing about stores is that there is more than one so if Fry's doesn't have good price match, then go to one that does. If you order from ncix or memory express, you can submit the price match online and pick it up instore or have it shipped to you.

Memory express sounds like an awesome electronics store. I wish they were around me. NCIX has a policy that is similar to Frys', except they will take any retailer that is in the US. http://www.ncixus.com/products/pricematch.php?sku=3104 Does NCIX offer free shipping on big orders?

They do if it's over $50 and under 25 pounds which most components are. 

*Shipping restrictions: Free shipping only applies to weekly sale items. Order must be greater than $50 before shipping and handling, environmental fees, taxes and less than 25lbs.

They have a sale every week for most components so it's not exactly a zomg limitation. The only thing you would have to get from somewhere else is the case since that might weigh more.

http://www.ncix.com/promo/MothersDay2017.htm



                  

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