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bdbdbd on 19 April 2017
VGPolyglot said:
bdbdbd said:

The violence is used to maintain civil society. People are kept in jail to prevent them doing any more damage - either permanently or a set amount of time.

Now, as you talk about cooperation, isn't this excactly what countries like USA have been doing ever since WW2. If you think Russia is doing like shit today and USA or Germany or Japan is doing good, it's because USA, Germany and Japan have made better friends than Russia. Why do we have this system that's allowed to inflict violence on citizens, is because that's what people want. People want to be protected. They want their kids, friends and other relatives or close ones to be safe. If you can't act the way that other people in society are safe, you need to be removed from the society, either put in jail or expelled.

Many people in jail are either there for non-violent crimes, or are there for charges like theft, which would be much less of a problem if there weren't poor, desperate people. Of course people want to be protected, but the problem is that they simultaneously uphold a repressive system yet also make themselves the only people that can come to our help in times of emergencies. They force us to be reliant on them.

This would need a working social welfare. However, your solution wouldn't fix the problem, it would just make theft legal, not get rid of that. 

The jail sentence is supposed to work as pre-emptive method to prevent crimes from being made in the first place. This do lead into problems, like poor people making crimes to get to prison so they'd have something to eat.

Yes, the monopoly on violence makes people reliant on the government, just like social welfare and stuff like that does. But it also works the other way around, if the government doesn't serve the people, it will be changed. I do agree that decision making needs smaller units in order to be effective, and stuff like brexit is definately a step into right direction



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barneystinson69 on 20 April 2017

Calgary is out. Sweep against them. Can't believe this, especially after the last game. There's always next year...



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