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What comes first? What do you think ?

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twintail said:
If this means
1) cheaper price tag
2) slightly smaller screen
3) obviously reduced bevels

then I am interested

how about the games? Cause if you don't like Nintendo games, there is no point of getting a Switch imo. 



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I expect many revisions, similar to the Game Boy.



I could definitely see a Switch mini release in 2019 for $200. Thing is its gotta still be able to connect to a dock or it won't be a "Switch", and it still needs joycons or else you lose motion which plenty of games will incorporate (and no matter what some people say about motion controls, they are fantastic and a much better way to play for certain types of games). But they could market the mini as a handheld with no dock and no controller grip which would help lower the price, and maybe have a Switch mini dock or something that let it connect to the tv sold separately, and of course you can buy all the other accessories as well.

The thing is they need to keep the height of the mini the same size so that the joycons fit on there. So they could make it less wide and a bit thinner, but they can't get the height down unless they completely abandon the idea of the Switch for a handheld only switch, but without motion controls, hd rumble, the ability to play multiplayer on one device portably it would lose a lot of value simply to be a smaller cheaper handheld only non-Switch, but if it is super cheap and they get the marketing right of clearly showing it is handheld only and does a lot less than the switch then I suppose there'd be a good market for it.

I do think the Switch is pretty much the ultimate device for Nintendo. Maybe they will make a Switch 2 that is much more powerful, but in general I see the Switch form being their last major console remake and them just providing updates and new version to it for the foreseeable future.



Yea I can see it happening



                  

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RolStoppable said:

I am not sold on the idea that there will be a dedicated handheld version of Switch. For one, it contradicts the name. And two, Nintendo will want to sell Joy-Cons and accessories to every Switch owner. I'd expect a more compact Switch that also comes with a redesigned dock; the dock doesn't add much to the system's cost anyway.

Nintendo is the company that made a 2D-only version of a system called 3DS, so anything is possible.



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Well, they have to create a 3DS sucessor. That means a sub-US$170 handheld, so Switch isn't cutting it right now. It seems that it is also a long way from reaching that price point and it will most likely retail for a higher price point than PS4/X1 for most its life.

A "lite" version with limited functionality that could match the price of the 3DS is not a bad idea at all.



Slownenberg said:
I could definitely see a Switch mini release in 2019 for $200. Thing is its gotta still be able to connect to a dock or it won't be a "Switch", and it still needs joycons or else you lose motion which plenty of games will incorporate (and no matter what some people say about motion controls, they are fantastic and a much better way to play for certain types of games). But they could market the mini as a handheld with no dock and no controller grip which would help lower the price, and maybe have a Switch mini dock or something that let it connect to the tv sold separately, and of course you can buy all the other accessories as well.

The thing is they need to keep the height of the mini the same size so that the joycons fit on there. So they could make it less wide and a bit thinner, but they can't get the height down unless they completely abandon the idea of the Switch for a handheld only switch, but without motion controls, hd rumble, the ability to play multiplayer on one device portably it would lose a lot of value simply to be a smaller cheaper handheld only non-Switch, but if it is super cheap and they get the marketing right of clearly showing it is handheld only and does a lot less than the switch then I suppose there'd be a good market for it.

I do think the Switch is pretty much the ultimate device for Nintendo. Maybe they will make a Switch 2 that is much more powerful, but in general I see the Switch form being their last major console remake and them just providing updates and new version to it for the foreseeable future.

The dock and Joy-Cons can be sold seperatly (maybe Nintendo can make a bundle for people wanting to connect it to the TV and also inlcude 1-2 Switch in the bundle). Motion controls in games like Zelda BOTW and Splatoon 2 should not be effected, because the current model has a gyro+accel in the Switch itself, so when in portable mode it will disable the gyro+accels in the Joy-Cons. For games like ARMS you will porbably need to purchase dock and Joy-Cons if you want to play on TV with motion controls, but even if you do not it will not make the game unplayable as it has been confimred that you can still use traditonal controls with that game (I believe most upcoming games will also have the option to use traditiona controls, since it would be difficult to use Joy-Cons seperatly while on the go).   

I agree that they will probably stick with the Switch platform and concept for probably the next decade (of course with architecture and form factor updates and new iterations). The Switch is essentially what the Gameboy was to the GB Pocket, GBC, GBA, GBA SP, and GBA Micro; what DS was to DS Lite, DSi (XL), 3DS (XL), 2DS, and New 3DS (XL); and what Gamecube was to Wii and Wii U.



RolStoppable said:

Sure, but that was done in response to something that wasn't well-received by the market.

So, let's suppose that 3DS owners don't want to switch (aha) to a Switch because it is more expensive. Then, maybe, Nintendo could release a lite edition of the console, removing everything they could to make it cheaper.



RolStoppable said:
torok said:

Nintendo is the company that made a 2D-only version of a system called 3DS, so anything is possible.

Sure, but that was done in response to something that wasn't well-received by the market.

That was not really the reason. They just wanted to create something with a lower barrier-of-entry. Case and point the vast majority of sales before and after 2DS came from (New) 3DS XL. The 2DS is essentially the Mac Mini/Macbook Air (in relation to iMac/Macbook [Pro] respectively) and iPhone SE (in relation to flagship iPhones) of the 3DS line. More specifically, it is a cheaper product that does not sell as well as its higher end counter parts, but its reduced price attracts an audience that was previously on-edge due to the high price of the other products in product family.



2018 definitely to catch and emphasize the hype wave and make the "switch" from 3DS. The biggest factor in redesign is for kids. To make the transition from 3DS, it needs to be friendly for kids to hold and use, as young as 6 or 7 years old. The switch is not friendly for that. Also, they need to put a nail into any doubts that the switch can be a true replacement for the traditional handheld line, the size of the switch hurts this.

I would go as far as to consider the current version of switch, however immediately accessible and successful it may be, to be a Switch fat, like the DS fat when it was first released, a test Beta version. A Lite version releasing soon would not be unreasonable. If you discover a cavern full of gold, you try to find ways to collect as much as possible before the rush begins. However, Nintendo has not usually done what we thought made logical sense.

In discovering what this "lite" or "mini" version would be, we would have to consider the concepts and sensibility behind the switch. The name "Switch" strongly allows for multiple components and upgrades and flexibility. It has broken up the console itself into pieces. This flexibility is a large part of the consumer appeal and allows for experiments with the components, easy upgrades, and many other profit options. This will likely be used in the design. They could have joycon attachment rails on different sides of a newly designed screen casing to be used for extra variety (such as being held vertical in 2DS fashion) or they could have repurposed joycons for new control concepts to "switch" out the gameplay. Also they like the "sliding" element, it is incorporated both in the connecting of the components as well as the dock. This is a definitive design factor; expect any new "attachment" to create a "mini" switch to use some sort of sliding and "click" to accomplish the transitions. Perhaps the designs shown in the concept images of this thread are possible if smoothed out, but perhaps the screen also slides behind the grip and clicks for transporting and making controller attachment easier. These are thoughts we should take into consideration when thinking of the possibilities.

The players: controllers, body, dock, grip, controller attachments.
*Unlikely to change - core controller. There needs to be some consistency in input for developers and in the mind of the consumer. The joycons are a great way to do both. Nintendo is already introducing new color variations and has put a lot of thought into the connection design, straps, the switch logo, etc. Do not expect the core design for the joycons to change. Different button layouts or attachments may come out, but the shape, size, function of the core included will remain.

*Most likely to change: 1) dock style or having a dock. With a main system having a dock, it is not necessary for a "mini" system meant primarily as portable to have a dock, however since every system includes a dock, it is also not unreasonable for them to include a "mini" specific dock to have the choice. 2) System body. Smaller, connecting rails on all sides, enlarged screen area, etc. Possibly each version sold separately for $150-$200, cost difference made up through the additional controller and dock purchases.

It is obvious that Nintendo's goal here, with the switch multiplayer approach, LAN, and the 3 forms of play, that they intend for households to be able to have as many switch consoles as is needed for their play style. If at $150 for the different bodies, $80 for the controllers, $80 for the docks, and $40-60 for different grips, this is easily imagined, but might be a year from now before realized.