VGPolyglot said:
Well, "communist state" is an oxymoron in the first place as communism is stateless. |
It isnt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_state
The state is just a precondition for countries like China and North Korea
Beyond laughable. America continues being a country that promotes growth and freedom more than any other country on earth. North Korea enslaves 20 plus million human beings and while everyone seems to justify this practice simply because NK isn't focusing their nonsense at your country.
The same weak willed bull shit justified the slavery of hundreds of millions in the USSR. disgusting
Ruler said:
I highly dissagree, fascism has nothing to do with Socialism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PvBBDqID-U A communist/socialist state cant be fascist as both are the complete opposite to each other. Syndicalism has nothing to do with fascism at all, its anarchism and tries to have a stateless communist movement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndicalism How is the North Korean Army supposed to fall apart if they believe in their own system? They can do huge damage to South Korean and US Army bases too, with their artillery. |
The opposite of fascism is anarcho-communism. Italian syndicalists were among the first fascists and similar movements were attempted in Spain and Portugal. Georges Sorel, a Marxist and syndicalist was highly influencial in fascist thought and Mussolini was a big fan of him.
By the way, if you go to your Wikipedia link, you'll see that syndicalism is in the fascist portal and Fascism is in the "See Also" section. If you go to the Italian Fascism page then you'll see this:
"Italian Fascism was rooted in Italian nationalism, revolutionary syndicalism and the desire to restore and expand Italian territories... According to Sternhell “most syndicalist leaders were among the founders of the Fascist movement,” who, in later years, gained key posts in Mussolini’s regime.[3]"
You think North Koreans have faith in their system, or does the perpetual state of fear keep everyone in check? Their army can do damage but not win a war, at least an offensive one.
The regime needs an enemy to pin its problems on and to keep the facade up. Once the facade fails then the whole house falls apart, why do you think NK is so restrictive on access to information about the outside world to its citizens?
Ruler said:
It isnt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_state The state is just a precondition for countries like China and North Korea |
OK. I should have clarified. There is no such thing as a state that is communist. A communist state, as what you're referring to, is a state with its explicit goals being to achieve communism, not that they are communist.
Eagle367 said:
Yes heavily. The Pakistani military is fighting terrorists each day every day. The delicacy and area of the border make it more difficult to manage than the most tense borders out there. The Pakistani army is doing a much better job than US or the afghan military at the very least. But if the production of terrorists don't stop, there's not much the army can do than keep fighting. And the interenational courts will never hold the US accountable for its multitude of war crimes and law abuses. You should know that as well as I do. hell any country that has the power to veto is very unlikely to face any international trials. Pakistan and all of the countries west of it in Asia will cease to exist before the USA is held accountable for anything. So it is not best left upto the international courts. The people should educate themselves and raise their voices over the atrocities and if they fail to do so the USA will continue on its merry way. Do you honestly think the american elites care for human decency or the trials of the victims in the countries they attack or even the soldiers they send their to fight for their selfish needs? |
Eagle, I'm still looking for the criteria used when the US calls for drone strikes.
Also, I'd appreciate your thoughts on the following: "Most security experts still believe that drones, which allow a scene to be watched for hours or days through video feeds, still offer at least the chance of greater accuracy than other means of killing terrorists. By most accounts, conventional airstrikes and ground invasions kill a higher proportion of noncombatants."
| SpokenTruth said: How many civilians in foreign countries has the US killed this year? How many civilians in foreign countries has NK killed this year? |
Hundreds? Who's counting?
As far as I know, I think only one: Kim Jong-nam.
Leadified said:
The opposite of fascism is anarcho-communism. Italian syndicalists were among the first fascists and similar movements were attempted in Spain and Portugal. Georges Sorel, a Marxist and syndicalist was highly influencial in fascist thought and Mussolini was a big fan of him. By the way, if you go to your Wikipedia link, you'll see that syndicalism is in the fascist portal and Fascism is in the "See Also" section. If you go to the Italian Fascism page then you'll see this: "Italian Fascism was rooted in Italian nationalism, revolutionary syndicalism and the desire to restore and expand Italian territories... According to Sternhell “most syndicalist leaders were among the founders of the Fascist movement,” who, in later years, gained key posts in Mussolini’s regime.[3]" |
The oppsite of Anarcho Communism is Anarcho Capitalism or Libertarianism. The political compass, an image by them
Georges Sorel wasnt a marxist or fascist, he only influed some of them.
I dont see how Syndicalism proofs anything as the DPRK is state to begin with, the whole Syndicalist ideology is based on some form anarchism doesnt have to say which version, left or right. Syndicalism isnt really considred even communism by many, in fact Anarchist communism isnt even Marxist-Leninist which the DPRK is. You just added it in there to find something to link the DPRK to Fascism.
Leadified said:
You think North Koreans have faith in their system, or does the perpetual state of fear keep everyone in check? Their army can do damage but not win a war, at least an offensive one. The regime needs an enemy to pin its problems on and to keep the facade up. Once the facade fails then the whole house falls apart, why do you think NK is so restrictive on access to information about the outside world to its citizens? |
I could say the same thing about the US. You would think they are the most secure nation geographically, economicley and militarily yet they have to constantly meddling in everyones affairs and fear mongering its population 24 hours a day. In its past 70 years the DPRK never was involved in any war unlike the US.
The US and other first world countries can afford democracies and some form of human rights because they can export their exploitation abroud trough imperialism like global trade. If they would be cut off from trade with poorer countries they would be just as cruel as the DPRK or any third world country to its population, like forcing their people to work in coal mines with bad condition etc. as someone would need to do the dirty work.
| Mystro-Sama said: Thats bullshit and everyone knows it. |
The only bullshit is North Korea and their ability to nuke everything.
| Ljink96 said: I have to agree, and it even scares me. We're using the largest non-nuclear bomb, something we haven't done in years, on 31 terrorists... who knows how many civilians have lost their lives at our hands. I said it once, I'll say it again, I don't stand by a single fucking thing Trump does. |
Or any president save for some Democratic presidents that did nothing offensive.
Ruler said:
The oppsite of Anarcho Communism is Anarcho Capitalism or Libertarianism. The political compass, an image by them |
Actually, I'd say that Leadified's more accurate. Anarcho-communism and fascism are the opposites.
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