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There is nothing wrong with bringing muslims into your country.

Bringing in poorer, not educated immigrants who are easily susceptible to radicalism and unfamiliar with western culture in the 100's of thousands is unwise.



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Qwark said:
celador said:

Nope, he is a piece of shit, and I am disgusted that he is my mayor

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/67238/londons-first-muslim-mayor-defended-911-terrorists/#XebOUJXTp5YbDaAW.97

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/exposed-sadiq-khans-family-links-to-extremist-organisation-a3179066.html

Western society is at an all time low if people like this can become major in London. I like Aboutaleb the major of Rotterdam who is a Muslim (and an Islamophobe according to Erdogan). Defending 911 however is some sick mentality for a London major to have.

I wouldn't use breakingisraelnews.com as evidence for anything, they believe that Earthquakes, Volcanoes, Fukushima, Blobs as evidence for the "end of days" and then uses Bible passages to justify their garbage.

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/85439/volcanoes-radioactive-fish-blob-north-pacific-seismic-rumblings-gearing-end-days/#IGvS9MkhUoTJOyBv.97

standard.co.uk has roots in tabloids. Aka. Fluff.
They provided zero citations for their claims, no supporting evidence.

I'm not saying it's inaccurate, just be weary of those specific sources of information... And make sure you have supportive evidence from other sources if you intend to believe it.

vivster said:

I'm pretty sure that you can get a gun and maybe even a full automatic rifle in any country if you know what you're doing. But that would require thought and effort. Traits absent in most terrorists.

You need "connections". Something that takes time. Especially in countries with excessively strong gun control like Australia.

 

foodfather said:
A lot of these incidents aren't quote on quote terror related though and certainly not immigration related. ISIS isn't behind it. Taliban isn't behind it etc.

There are some individuals in the Muslim community who genuinely have a crazy thirst for destruction, maiming and the defiling of western civilisation, in their own little way of course.

Are the Muslim groomers ( rotterham gang, google them) who molested hundreds of young girls and caused way more harm than any ISIS / extremist attack terrorists?

The part I find annoying is that a large segment of society cracks a massive tantrum whenever a Muslim does something wrong... Yet they let Christian, Buddhist, Jewish etc' acts of distasteful garbage slide. It's double standards.

Lawlight said:
Eagle367 said:

This looks fake. Sorry

It's not. Not sure why you would think I would post something fake :

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/children-with-beheading-signs-an-outrage-says-scipione-20120916-2602v.html

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/behead-sign-child-deemed-safe-as-mother-talks-to-police-20120917-26368.html

smh.com.au (Sydney Morning Herald) have very strong conservative views.

And if you have been paying attention... The extreme far-right neo-nazi group, The United Patriots Front and it's sister group Reclaim Australia haven't helped the situation either.
Both sides "bait" each other in the protests by holding up outlandish signs, doing obscene acts like lighting flags on fire... Stabbing dolls...
For example, The United Patriot Front, a member had all the ingredients ready to make a bomb, various members brought guns... You name it, for a group who is anti-muslim they have some very "terrorist-like" ideas.

My suggestion to you is to stand back, look at what both sides are doing. It's not pretty. Both are equally guilty of bullshittery.



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celador said:

can't wait to hear what our muslim mayor has to say

surprised he hasn't said anything yet, perhaps taking his time to enjoy the pictures of the injured and killed first

 

~User was moderated for this post - Ryuu96

Damn.. Your the other side of the same coin boyyo, people (muslim or non-muslim) with that reasoning are why we have this continuing conflict, wake up ffs 



Flilix said:
Normchacho said:
It's really sad to hear news like this. But, as an American, it's also almost odd to think that the violence here is way worse on a daily basis than it is in a lot of other places on a day like today. I mean...if the attackers weren't Muslims, this would barely be news in the US.

This, we only seem to care about these things if it's a terrorist attack. If there are links with terrorism, it suddenly becomes big news, because we're so scared. That's pretty much what terrorists want, they want us to be scared.

It's big news if it's committed by a Muslim because someone murdering for make believe reasons and that's fucked up.

They don't give a shit if people are scared, they'll kill you either way.

Cut out the beta male subversion and stick to the topic.



Pemalite said:
Qwark said:

Western society is at an all time low if people like this can become major in London. I like Aboutaleb the major of Rotterdam who is a Muslim (and an Islamophobe according to Erdogan). Defending 911 however is some sick mentality for a London major to have.

I wouldn't use breakingisraelnews.com as evidence for anything, they believe that Earthquakes, Volcanoes, Fukushima, Blobs as evidence for the "end of days" and then uses Bible passages to justify their garbage.

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/85439/volcanoes-radioactive-fish-blob-north-pacific-seismic-rumblings-gearing-end-days/#IGvS9MkhUoTJOyBv.97

standard.co.uk has roots in tabloids. Aka. Fluff.
They provided zero citations for their claims, no supporting evidence.

I'm not saying it's inaccurate, just be weary of those specific sources of information... And make sure you have supportive evidence from other sources if you intend to believe it.

vivster said:

I'm pretty sure that you can get a gun and maybe even a full automatic rifle in any country if you know what you're doing. But that would require thought and effort. Traits absent in most terrorists.

You need "connections". Something that takes time. Especially in countries with excessively strong gun control like Australia.

 

foodfather said:
A lot of these incidents aren't quote on quote terror related though and certainly not immigration related. ISIS isn't behind it. Taliban isn't behind it etc.

There are some individuals in the Muslim community who genuinely have a crazy thirst for destruction, maiming and the defiling of western civilisation, in their own little way of course.

Are the Muslim groomers ( rotterham gang, google them) who molested hundreds of young girls and caused way more harm than any ISIS / extremist attack terrorists?

The part I find annoying is that a large segment of society cracks a massive tantrum whenever a Muslim does something wrong... Yet they let Christian, Buddhist, Jewish etc' acts of distasteful garbage slide. It's double standards.

Lawlight said:

It's not. Not sure why you would think I would post something fake :

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/children-with-beheading-signs-an-outrage-says-scipione-20120916-2602v.html

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/behead-sign-child-deemed-safe-as-mother-talks-to-police-20120917-26368.html

smh.com.au (Sydney Morning Herald) have very strong conservative views.

And if you have been paying attention... The extreme far-right neo-nazi group, The United Patriots Front and it's sister group Reclaim Australia haven't helped the situation either.
Both sides "bait" each other in the protests by holding up outlandish signs, doing obscene acts like lighting flags on fire... Stabbing dolls...
For example, The United Patriot Front, a member had all the ingredients ready to make a bomb, various members brought guns... You name it, for a group who is anti-muslim they have some very "terrorist-like" ideas.

My suggestion to you is to stand back, look at what both sides are doing. It's not pretty. Both are equally guilty of bullshittery.

You can attack the source but surely you're not denying that a Muslim kid was holding that sign, right?

The difference between the Islamists and the far right groups is that the latter are drowned out by the pro-Islamist media. So much so that they are irrelevant. Plus, I never heard of the UPF until now - I had to google it. I only heard of Reclaim Australia. So I don't think both sides are equally guilty as one side is way more powerful and actually killed Australians.



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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
A Muslim commits murder or mass murder and it is always claimed by media as a terrorist attack. If the attacker was not a Muslim it would not be getting tabloid media attention.

Bullshit

Do you even know what the English language definition of a "terrorist attack" is.

Terrorism gets media attention because terrorism is an attack on all people and a country's values.

Attacks by white people that are race based targeting get constant coverage and most of it is liberal lies.

Baltimore, anyone?



Pemalite said:
Qwark said:

Western society is at an all time low if people like this can become major in London. I like Aboutaleb the major of Rotterdam who is a Muslim (and an Islamophobe according to Erdogan). Defending 911 however is some sick mentality for a London major to have.

I wouldn't use breakingisraelnews.com as evidence for anything, they believe that Earthquakes, Volcanoes, Fukushima, Blobs as evidence for the "end of days" and then uses Bible passages to justify their garbage.

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/85439/volcanoes-radioactive-fish-blob-north-pacific-seismic-rumblings-gearing-end-days/#IGvS9MkhUoTJOyBv.97

standard.co.uk has roots in tabloids. Aka. Fluff.
They provided zero citations for their claims, no supporting evidence.

I'm not saying it's inaccurate, just be weary of those specific sources of information... And make sure you have supportive evidence from other sources if you intend to believe it.

vivster said:

I'm pretty sure that you can get a gun and maybe even a full automatic rifle in any country if you know what you're doing. But that would require thought and effort. Traits absent in most terrorists.

You need "connections". Something that takes time. Especially in countries with excessively strong gun control like Australia.

 

foodfather said:
A lot of these incidents aren't quote on quote terror related though and certainly not immigration related. ISIS isn't behind it. Taliban isn't behind it etc.

There are some individuals in the Muslim community who genuinely have a crazy thirst for destruction, maiming and the defiling of western civilisation, in their own little way of course.

Are the Muslim groomers ( rotterham gang, google them) who molested hundreds of young girls and caused way more harm than any ISIS / extremist attack terrorists?

The part I find annoying is that a large segment of society cracks a massive tantrum whenever a Muslim does something wrong... Yet they let Christian, Buddhist, Jewish etc' acts of distasteful garbage slide. It's double standards.

Lawlight said:

It's not. Not sure why you would think I would post something fake :

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/children-with-beheading-signs-an-outrage-says-scipione-20120916-2602v.html

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/behead-sign-child-deemed-safe-as-mother-talks-to-police-20120917-26368.html

smh.com.au (Sydney Morning Herald) have very strong conservative views.

And if you have been paying attention... The extreme far-right neo-nazi group, The United Patriots Front and it's sister group Reclaim Australia haven't helped the situation either.
Both sides "bait" each other in the protests by holding up outlandish signs, doing obscene acts like lighting flags on fire... Stabbing dolls...
For example, The United Patriot Front, a member had all the ingredients ready to make a bomb, various members brought guns... You name it, for a group who is anti-muslim they have some very "terrorist-like" ideas.

My suggestion to you is to stand back, look at what both sides are doing. It's not pretty. Both are equally guilty of bullshittery.

You can attack the source but surely you're not denying that a Muslim kid was holding that sign, right?

The difference between the Islamists and the far right groups is that the latter are drowned out by the pro-Islamist media. So much so that they are irrelevant. Plus, I never heard of the UPF until now - I had to google it. I only heard of Reclaim Australia. So I don't think both sides are equally guilty as one side is way more powerful and actually killed Australians.



Edit: double post



Rab said:
celador said:

can't wait to hear what our muslim mayor has to say

surprised he hasn't said anything yet, perhaps taking his time to enjoy the pictures of the injured and killed first

 

~User was moderated for this post - Ryuu96

Damn.. Your the other side of the same coin boyyo, people (muslim or non-muslim) with that reasoning are why we have this continuing conflict, wake up ffs 

No

MUSLIMS

MURDERING

INNOCENT

PEOPLE

INDISCRIMINATELY

Are why we have this conflict. Posts like yours perpetuate the conflict and create division.

The bad guys are murdering and your priority lies with condemning....Words.



Lawlight said:

You can attack the source but surely you're not denying that a Muslim kid was holding that sign, right?

The difference between the Islamists and the far right groups is that the latter are drowned out by the pro-Islamist media. So much so that they are irrelevant. Plus, I never heard of the UPF until now - I had to google it. I only heard of Reclaim Australia. So I don't think both sides are equally guilty as one side is way more powerful and actually killed Australians.

United Patriots Front have a massive amount of support. It's Facebook page has more likes than Reclaim Australia. (116k vs 71k)

The media tends to "hush" about United Patriots Front because of it's extremist views. Yes. They are an extremist group.
Reclaim Australia is a little less extreme... They are buoyed by One Nation and the Australian Tea Party.

It's unacceptable for both sides to be acting as they are. Even the far left groups who counter-protest United Patriots Front and Reclaim Australia are taking things way to far.

The fact that you are willing to be apologetic towards the far-right groups under the belief that they aren't as "guilty" as their opposition is laughable. A kid holding a sign up is in contrast to United Patriots Front and Reclaim Australia Members planning the construction of bombs and carrying guns. - But the kid is more guilty? Puh-lease.

My point is, all the groups need to calm their tits and move on with life. I'm honestly sick of it all.



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