So if the Scorpio has this....there's no way it'll be 400 dollars?

I was just talking to a microcenter salesman. Yesterday, actually. He said the single core performance isn't quite matching with intel. He also said that having all those extra cores is useless if they're not being taken advantage of. I'd saw this thread before remembering to fact-check, but, this stuff better come out soon. I need to see benchmarks. I need a much more powerful PC than what mine is currently delivering. 4790k is no where close to cutting it, and I'm not paying 1500 on a CPU...

If I had the money, I'd invest. My processor is old anyway, but dependable.

First gaming benchmark is out apparently: http://www.dsogaming.com/news/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-versus-intel-i7-6800k-i7-6900k-first-gaming-benchmarks/

Not third party mind you and the guy with the cmaera doesn't put too much focus on the actual gains, so I'll still be waiting for more benches later on.

If the performance is anywhere near as AMD is claiming...then it's very exciting...if for nothing else but for Intel dropping prices.

Yeah. I think AMD is just countering lower per-core performance with higher clocks, more threads.

But they are "close enough" to Intel.

We all need some reliable benchmarking done by the likes of Anandtech.

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For me personally, AMD has dropped the ball, they don't have any high-end boards...

Should be a night-and-day increase for you.

As for Vega... AMD stated first-half of 2017.

When AMD gives out quarter or half-year release window estimations... They tend to drop towards the end, so expect Vega to start dropping around the middle of the year.

Even if they provide more performance at a cheaper price? What's your current CPU?

I have no brand loyalty to anyone.  Doesn't make any sense at all.  You wont see me saying Street Fighter 5 > Mortal Kombat X, or Sony > Nintendo, or Intel > AMD.

I'm going for whatever option is going to be the best option for the dollar.  My Ryzen chip has been put on pre-order.  It will be much better than my lacking i7 4790k.  I should eventually pair it up with a GTX 1080, but we'll see how that turns out.

I'm deciding not to wait.  I've gotten my 2 year warranty on the CPU, incase anything bad happens with the CPU.  But, I'm not expecting my 4790k to come anywhere close to my 1800x.  At this moment, I'm glad I didn't opt for I7 7700k.  I would have been so mad that I didn't wait the extra day (Soonest I would have bought the 7700k would have been the day of the AMD presentation).  That's one of the reasons I was at microcenter.

I'm excited, though.  I was trying to do so much with my I7.  I couldn't record videos, while playing a game, unless everything was set to the lowest setting.  Same for streaming.  Except when I was recording console game footage. That was fantasic, and that's honestly all I thought I'd be doing...

But, since I had the PC capable, I got a graphics card, and when it came to PC gaming, it wasn't able to record and stream at acceptable quality anymore, for the most part... But, Street Fighter V did stream better on PC than it did from console, but that was the only exception.

real world: excel performance, and Dota + Streaming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhFkWl5u6_k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzq3wI1sH1I

Its impressive.

The Ryzen 7 1700, is a 65watt part and its beating a 91watt tpd 7700k, handily in real world tasks.

Why would a console need even something like the Ryzen 7 1700?

Most PC gamers dont even have a intel i7 7700k, either.

If it does have a Ryzen CPU, it ll be with lesser amounts of cores/threads than these, and running much lower clock speeds.

I dont think the Scorpio will have a ryzen CPU in it tbh.

That's a good thing.
I love AMD's hardware, when it suits my needs/want's and desires.
I have had AMD GPU's exclusively for almost a decade... And not just single GPU configurations either.

Fantastic. The 1800x is great value for money. Just a shame that the platform is only mid-range.
Probably a good thing you didn't jump on the 7700K, you would have been dissapointed in such an upgrade, you could have just overclocked the 4790K and made up allot of the difference anyway.

And that is ultimately the crux of the issue. My 3930K overclocked is able to give Intels current 8-core/16 thread chips at stock a run for their money, so it should still beat the AMD 1800X at stock as well... And that is a 6 year old chip.

As for the Geforce 1080... Keep in mind Vega is coming middle of this year. ;)

Sounds like you expected more than your i7 could deliver. :P
You probably should have looked towards the 2011 and 2011-3 sockets instead of Intels Mainstream/Mid-range quads.

I have always opted for more CPU cores over less, always.
Back in the Core 2 Quad days people would often tell people not to bother with the quad-cores as nothing could use all those cores... Ironically, those Core 2 Quads have aged rather well, especially overclocked where they can still give AMD's FX quads a run for their money.

I am waiting to see how the market reacts to AMD shaking things up.
I am hoping Intel reacts with big price-cuts across the board, Intel is also launching LGA 2066 during the middle of the year, so hopefully lower pricing flows over to that platform, which maybe my next upgrade.