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this was one of Trumps "promises" so who ever voted for thump wanted this to happen. lets just remember the people who voted for these policies.




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Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Trump's plan is to lead US invasions against those 7 Muslim countries to implement democracy by installing US puppet governments. This has been done before with previous Presidents and it will continue under President Trump. Obama is the perfect fall guy. Trump and the media will blame Obama for this mess and Teflon Trump portrayed as the hero.

LOL wut???  In fact it has been implemented right  before the presidential ellection,  remember Iraqi'a war , Libyan revolution, Syrian war , And Yaman houty revolution. All  war were in that region  involving US government. And all of those countries already a puppet of US and Iran. Yes Iran is not a puppet but an allies of US. 



anthony64641 said:

this was one of Trumps "promises" so who ever voted for thump wanted this to happen. lets just remember the people who voted for these policies.

Not necesarily. Some may have wanted to stop Hillary or liked some of his other proposals. So they could be against this.



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This is BS. Trump is President. Quit making excuses for him.



Alkibiádēs said:
Scisca said:
What we really need is not to ban muslims, but to support Christians all around the globe. Christians are the most persecuted group in the World. We have to help them, so that muslims stop erradicating them from their countries, thriving Christian communities would be our only hope of stopping this muslim madness.

You're kidding, right? There are many Christian terrorists in Africa and even India, they just don't make the news. 

Sure thing. Christians are currently the most persecuted group in the World, especially in Africa and India. I know it's hard for leftist to acknowledge this undeniable fact, since they are on a mission to destroy Christianity in the West and sympathising with Christians isn't politically correct. It may be hard to swallow, but the real solution to islamic terror isn't more violence against muslims and destruction of more and more of their countries, but support and development of Christian communities in Africa and Middle East. Long term, you can defeat the muslim evil only with good.



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Scisca said:
Alkibiádēs said:

You're kidding, right? There are many Christian terrorists in Africa and even India, they just don't make the news. 

Sure thing. Christians are currently the most persecuted group in the World, especially in Africa and India. I know it's hard for leftist to acknowledge this undeniable fact, since they are on a mission to destroy Christianity in the West and sympathising with Christians isn't politically correct. It may be hard to swallow, but the real solution to islamic terror isn't more violence against muslims and destruction of more and more of their countries, but support and development of Christian communities in Africa and Middle East. Long term, you can defeat the muslim evil only with good.

Lol, what a racist post. 

Christianity is a dying religion in Europe, and thank God for that. Seperating religion from government is the best thing that could've happened to Europe, hopefully other countries follow suit. 

Just google Christian violence in Africa or India and see for yourself. 

Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all united by their intolerance of people who think differently. 



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Alkibiádēs said:
Scisca said:

Sure thing. Christians are currently the most persecuted group in the World, especially in Africa and India. I know it's hard for leftist to acknowledge this undeniable fact, since they are on a mission to destroy Christianity in the West and sympathising with Christians isn't politically correct. It may be hard to swallow, but the real solution to islamic terror isn't more violence against muslims and destruction of more and more of their countries, but support and development of Christian communities in Africa and Middle East. Long term, you can defeat the muslim evil only with good.

Lol, what a racist post. 

Christianity is a dying religion in Europe, and thank God for that. Seperating religion from government is the best thing that could've happened to Europe, hopefully other countries follow suit. 

Just google Christian violence in Africa or India and see for yourself. 

Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all united by their intolerance of people who think differently. 

Google what racism means, since you clearly have no idea.

Christianity is dying only in Western Europe. And Western Europe is dying with it. Forget about anybody following suit, leftist Western Europe serves as a warning and an example of a failed experiment. In that regard it sits right next to Nazism and Communism - two other ideologies that rejected Christianity.

You are factually wrong, but I doubt there's any point discussing this, considering the absurdity of your claims.



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Scisca said:
Alkibiádēs said:

You're kidding, right? There are many Christian terrorists in Africa and even India, they just don't make the news. 

Sure thing. Christians are currently the most persecuted group in the World, especially in Africa and India. I know it's hard for leftist to acknowledge this undeniable fact, since they are on a mission to destroy Christianity in the West and sympathising with Christians isn't politically correct. It may be hard to swallow, but the real solution to islamic terror isn't more violence against muslims and destruction of more and more of their countries, but support and development of Christian communities in Africa and Middle East. Long term, you can defeat the muslim evil only with good.

I think avoiding religion altogether when it comes to developing countries will bring the most effective results. Interfering with the Middle East was an embarrassing mistake, but we can reverse our actions by educating people and not creating more problems. Their way of living is different than ours. Simple. I'd rather see Iraq have a flawed prime minister/dictator than to see it turn into a hell hole. Bringing more knowledge into the area will definitely bring massive improvement, whether if it's now or later.

 

Unfortunately, I just don't think much will change. Not too many people understand the damage that comes from interfering with issues in African and Middle Eastern countries. You can definitely try to help, but the 20th-21st century shows that typically things just end up becoming worse (Vietnam and communism, Iraq and Saddam, Yemen and Libya's political issues, etc.) 

 

We'll know that things have become better than the regions slowly turn into Jordan or Syria pre-civil war. We shouldn't expect them to turn into Switzerland anytime soon, but (as you said) everyone definitely wants people of all religions to unite without issue