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lol what a ridiculous complain... since when does 1 thing exists to the exclusion of the other.

and by the way, I'd sure love to know how you can judge gameplay on a video trailer

good fps impact on the gameplay, it's a good measure of how the game "feels"



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It is not so much an issue with exclusives.

It is more an issue with multiplatform games. Why would I want to play a significantly crappier version? That is why if all consoles have similar power, the slight differences don't matter. If the difference is 10x or even 5x the power, then you will notice significant differences.



 

 

GribbleGrunger said:

Since technology improved and some people wanted to make out you can't have both because their company of choice started falling behind.

The reality.

There's plenty of insecurity to go around, Gribble. Maybe some Nintendo fans are embarrassed about graphics so they focus on gameplay. And maybe some PS gamers are embarrassed about gameplay so they focus on graphics.

It goes both ways.



 

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Veknoid_Outcast said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Since technology improved and some people wanted to make out you can't have both because their company of choice started falling behind.

The reality.

There's plenty of insecurity to go around, Gribble. Maybe some Nintendo fans are embarrassed about graphics so they focus on gameplay. And maybe some PS gamers are embarrassed about gameplay so they focus on graphics.

It goes both ways.

Sounds like an inept comparison here, but I'm willing to listen. Which game exactly is playing better on a Nintendo console than on a Playstation console?

I'm not sure I even comprehend what "embarrassed about gameplay" really means.



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Veknoid_Outcast said:
Gribbleunger said:

Since technology improved and some people wanted to make out you can't have both because their company of choice started falling behind.

The reality.

There's plenty of insecurity to go around, Gribble. Maybe some Nintendo fans are embarrassed about graphics so they focus on gameplay. And maybe some PS gamers are embarrassed about gameplay so they focus on graphics.

It goes both ways.

Basically. My take on Switch is that even when I know that it's graphically poor compared with the competition, I gladly sacrifice raw power for portability. Both would probaby be prohibitive expensive, ideal, yep, but expensive. And I still think that gameplay discusions are way more interesting that this "numbers war". So I tend to agree with the OP, though not 100%. 



hd94 said:

I really hate it when literally everyone in the comment section was complaining about the graphics every time a trailer came out. you will see comments like "what? only 30 fps? 720p?" "I hate the art style" "looks outdated" "is this for ps2?" every time a new trailer came out. 

But why? why people can't just shut up and enjoy the gameplay?  Furthermore, I don't see the point of "good graphic" in console gaming. If you really want a 4k + 120fps game, just get a gaming PC.

Sorry for my terrible English, but I really pissed off by all the comments while watching some trailers (ps4 n switch)  on youtube.

It pisses me of even more when people predictably like the old cliche always put up this defense. Why can't we have graphics AND gameplay?!

Face it, Nintendos art and vision is starting to get constrained by technical limitations. There's only so much you can do with weak hardware. 720p in 2017 is laughable. The dock should've gotten the games to 1080p, people have a right to be upset about it. I just want Zeruda and Mario to look good and sharp on a modern TV.



Good game and good graphics is a good game.
Good game and great graphics is a better game. Besides power is used for more things than graphics alone.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

Veknoid_Outcast said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Since technology improved and some people wanted to make out you can't have both because their company of choice started falling behind.

The reality.

There's plenty of insecurity to go around, Gribble. Maybe some Nintendo fans are embarrassed about graphics so they focus on gameplay. And maybe some PS gamers are embarrassed about gameplay so they focus on graphics.

It goes both ways.

I can't deny some PS fans (and XB1 fans ... funny you overlooked that one ...) might be like that but I think you'd have to agree it's a much MUCH bigger stretch. I don't see many people starting threads asking 'when did gameplay trump graphics'. I'd say 99% of 'modern' gamers expect both.



 

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Qwark said:
Good game and good graphics is a good game.
Good game and great graphics is a better game. Besides power is used for more things than graphics alone.

True but at the same time:

Bad game with good graphics is a bad game.

Bad game with great graphics is not a better game.