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Forums - Sales Discussion - UK Charts - WEEK ENDING 10 December 2016

Kerotan on 12 December 2016
kowenicki said:
Kerotan said:
Good to see TLG debuting higher then ICO and SOTC.

COD beating BF quite easily this Christmas in the UK it seems. It's still the king of shooters.

Doesnt it say SOTC had a debut at No.1?

Anyhow not a bomb, but not great.  Even the badly reviewed Dead Rising beat it.  Both will drop fast.  People keep saying they did great without any numbers.  Likely quite low.

 

 

I'm talking sales not chart position!!!!!!! 

 

Highest debut of the UEDA trilogy.  Boom! 



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pastro243 on 12 December 2016

What were people expecting from TLG? Team ICO's games have never been big sellers



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DonFerrari on 12 December 2016
naruball said:
TheGreatOther said:

Sony woul probably keep funding such projects even if it was a huge flop.

According you Yoshida, only 4/10 games the fund make a profit and that's used to fund the other 6 they know won't be financially successful but are made for the love of gaming.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/07/04/shuhei-yoshida-only-four-out-of-ten-playstation-games-make-money-but-sony-will-always-support-talent/

 

This is why Sony's the best publisher out there by a long shot.

I could be 100% wrong about this, but they way I interpret it is, Sony funds certain projects (like Tearaway) that are not guaranteed hits (like Uncharted or God of War are), hoping that these games will turn a profit. Most of them (rougly 6/10 if Yoshida is to be believed) don't turn a profit, but some of them do. Little Big Planet must have been such a title. Thankfully for Sony it was a good investment.

I have serious doubts that Sony funds projects knowing full well that they will flop.  In the case of the Last Guardian, I think they saw no reason pulling the plug after spending so much money on it. They would have received backlash even from people with zero interest in the game.

I don't think they go out of their way to fund floppers, but what Yoshida said is more on the line of risk and benefits... from 10 games 4 turns profit and 6 don't.. and from the 4 likely 2 only pay themselves while the other 2 will generate enough money to cover for the 6 loses and still will have money in the bank. That is probably a way they manage their risk on trying to get a new game to rise to the position of profitter.



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Platina on 12 December 2016

Nice to see Pokemon and FF hold pretty well in the charts



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Kerotan on 12 December 2016
kowenicki said:
Kerotan said:

I'm talking sales not chart position!!!!!!! 

 

Highest debut of the UEDA trilogy.  Boom! 

In the UK?  Not surprising considering the market is probably double the size it was back then and the time of year they launched. How many copies?

All I know is it sold more the SOTC which released in the halcyon ps2 days which had a much bigger install base than the ps4 does!!!!!!! 



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DaveTheMinion13 on 12 December 2016
SWORDF1SH said:
foodfather said:
Considering the hype, thats a big flop for Last Guardian and big drop for FF.

I'm surprised Dead Rising 4 even made it into the top 5. Something can't be right there, there is no interest / marketing for that game at all.

I think TLG will have better legs. Also I've seen about the same amount of advertising for both in the UK. 

Minus the fact that Last Guardian launched on Friday....and not Tuesday like DR4, so it's not really a fair comparison 



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DaveTheMinion13 on 12 December 2016

Last Guardian launching on Friday and still making it in to the top 10 is very impressive, nearly 100 percent sure that Last Guardian would have been higher than Dead Rising 4 which had 3 days advantage. But I guess people will ignore release dates and say 1 bombed and not the other



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Aura7541 on 12 December 2016
DaveTheMinion13 said:
SWORDF1SH said:

I think TLG will have better legs. Also I've seen about the same amount of advertising for both in the UK. 

Minus the fact that Last Guardian launched on Friday....and not Tuesday like DR4, so it's not really a fair comparison 

Before DR4 came out, the series has sold 9 million. While Dead Rising is not a huge franchise, it's not small either.



DaveTheMinion13 on 12 December 2016
Aura7541 said:
DaveTheMinion13 said:

Minus the fact that Last Guardian launched on Friday....and not Tuesday like DR4, so it's not really a fair comparison 

Before DR4 came out, the series has sold 9 million. While Dead Rising is not a huge franchise, it's not small either.

Never spoke on how big the franchise is.....just saying if Last Guardian had those 3 extra days, in sure it would've easily jumped Dead Rising on the charts. They were extremely close as it was. Last guardian came out on the 9th of Dec



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Aura7541 on 12 December 2016
DaveTheMinion13 said:
Aura7541 said:

Before DR4 came out, the series has sold 9 million. While Dead Rising is not a huge franchise, it's not small either.

Never spoke on how big the franchise is.....just saying if Last Guardian had those 3 extra days, in sure it would've easily jumped Dead Rising on the charts. They were extremely close as it was. Last guardian came out on the 9th of Dec

Oh I was just building up on your "not a fair comparison" argument.