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DanneSandin said:
Akeos said:

 

Stop to listen rumors...  Listen Iwata... 

 

because of vast technological advances, it became possible to achieve a fair degree of architectural integration. that porting games across platforms would be much easier, and help solve Nintendo’s current problem of “game shortages.”



“It will become important for us to accurately take advantage of what we have done with the Wii U architecture,”
“It of course does not mean that we are going to use exactly the same architecture as Wii U, but we are going to create a system that can absorb the Wii U architecture adequately. When this happens, home consoles and handheld devices will no longer be completely different, and they will become like brothers in a family of systems.”


“Currently, we can only provide two form factors because if we had three or four different architectures, we would face serious shortages of software on every platform,”

“To cite a specific case, Apple is able to release smart devices with various form factors one after another because there is one way of programming adopted by all platforms.”

Another example is Android. Though there are various models, Android does not face software shortages because there is one common way of programming on the Android platform that works with various models. The point is, Nintendo platforms should be like those two examples.”

 

Iwata never said one console for all games but one OS for all console 

Yes, this would indicate two different devices that work together, but most rumors point to there being only one device. So it's hard to tell right now, which one it'll be.

 

For me, 

System NX is well 2 consoles, a portable and a home console.


The portable will be close to Vita for the power. Will have its own games. Look like a smartphone with pad detachable... 

The home console will be close to a ps4, but we will be able to also play with the games of the portable, home console will have a CPU x86 and a gpu amd, but also a ARM to ensure compatibility with the games portable.


Nintendo will replace the touch screen of the portable by the aiming system of Wiimote for the home console (intégred in pad detachable) .


Handheld device + pad detachable sold 149 dollars.

Home console + pad detachable sold 299 dollars

Bundle: home console + pad detachable + handheld device sold 399 dollars


The particularity will be a Community system of cloud using the home console to keep the online without month's subscription and to propose games massively multiplayer online (as well for the games portable as the games home console …) 

So people could take only HC or only HH, or both together, but features between them going to do that à lots take bundle... 


And if rumors speak about 1 console it's because Nintendo don't give all informations, studios are working on portable don't know anything about home console,  studios are working on home console don't know there is a portable too 



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Akeos said:
DanneSandin said:

Yes, this would indicate two different devices that work together, but most rumors point to there being only one device. So it's hard to tell right now, which one it'll be.

 

For me, 

System NX is well 2 consoles, a portable and a home console.


The portable will be close to Vita for the power. Will have its own games. Look like a smartphone with pad detachable... 

The home console will be close to a ps4, but we will be able to also play with the games of the portable, home console will have a CPU x86 and a gpu amd, but also a ARM to ensure compatibility with the games portable.



Nintendo will replace the touch screen of the portable by the aiming system of Wiimote for the home console (intégred in pad detachable) .


Handheld device + pad detachable sold 149 dollars.

Home console + pad detachable sold 299 dollars

Bundle: home console + pad detachable + handheld device sold 399 dollars


The particularity will be a Community system of cloud using the home console to keep the online without month's subscription and to propose games massively multiplayer online (as well for the games portable as the games home console …) 

So people could take only HC or only HH, or both together, but features between them going to do that à lots take bundle... 


And if rumors speak about 1 console it's because Nintendo don't give all informations, studios are working on portable don't know anything about home console,  studios are working on home console don't know there is a portable too 

Trustable rumours (Eurogamer, WSJ, IGN, Emilly Rogers...) are saying that NX having Nvidia Tegra, Tegra is much more powerful than Vita, it's more powerful than Wii U, especially if it's rely Pascal based.



This could be Kimishima's touch...the new head of Nintendo isn't a developper, but a commercial, he might feel (and it'd be right) they need to refine their marketing skills.



Miyamotoo,
Nintendo can't want making a portable with powerful.... Tegra X1 need 20 watts for 1 TFLOPS... So battery life will be 1 or 2 hours and that's nice to make a other Samsung note 7... Don't forget Nintendo's audience > young public and family....

Why trying to port home games on handheld ? When it's easy to make a home console whose accepting HC and HH games... ?

What is the biggest problème for Nintendo ? Having à lot of games on portable or home console ?

I think home console NX and portable NX will use the same OS, not to have the same games but to have a lots of features together, and if you don't like playing on handheld, you will have its games on home console...



Miyamotoo said:

I dont think they ever had two devices in development, we are talking about January 2013, just few months after Wii U launch, at that time most likely they had just initial theoretical plans about new platform and they just talk about them and analyze them, and in some point later they decided its better to go with hybrid instead of multiple devices. Thats why year later we got Iwata quotes of possibilities of integrated form factor and one device.

Yeah, that's true. Further more, I think we've only heard rumors about two seperate devices once or twice, yes? Most things we hear seem to point towards one hybrid console.



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Akeos said:
DanneSandin said:

Yes, this would indicate two different devices that work together, but most rumors point to there being only one device. So it's hard to tell right now, which one it'll be.

 

For me, 

System NX is well 2 consoles, a portable and a home console.


The portable will be close to Vita for the power. Will have its own games. Look like a smartphone with pad detachable... 

The home console will be close to a ps4, but we will be able to also play with the games of the portable, home console will have a CPU x86 and a gpu amd, but also a ARM to ensure compatibility with the games portable.


Nintendo will replace the touch screen of the portable by the aiming system of Wiimote for the home console (intégred in pad detachable) .


Handheld device + pad detachable sold 149 dollars.

Home console + pad detachable sold 299 dollars

Bundle: home console + pad detachable + handheld device sold 399 dollars


The particularity will be a Community system of cloud using the home console to keep the online without month's subscription and to propose games massively multiplayer online (as well for the games portable as the games home console …) 

So people could take only HC or only HH, or both together, but features between them going to do that à lots take bundle... 


And if rumors speak about 1 console it's because Nintendo don't give all informations, studios are working on portable don't know anything about home console,  studios are working on home console don't know there is a portable too 

That last part doesn't sit too well with me. I think it's far better to give developers the option to choose which console they work on; or else the game will be tailored for either the HC or the HH, when it in fact could have suited both platforms. I don't think Nintendo would be that stupid. Well, they actually could - but I'm hoping that's not the case!



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hershel_layton said:
Ljink96 said:
I feel so miserable, Nintendo is doing all this secretive stuff, and we know nothing about it. It's really surprising that they're taking this so seriously. The NX must be something else.

Secret plot to take over government???????

Stay woke.

TBH I'd give Miyamoto a four year stint in the White House at this point.



DanneSandin said:

Yeah, that's true. Further more, I think we've only heard rumors about two seperate devices once or twice, yes? Most things we hear seem to point towards one hybrid console.

A lot rumours are bandwagoning though so watch out, 2 devices under one OS that communicate makes far more sense as then the portable and home factor not only will not hamper eachothers design in anyway but it matches what Iwata said far more. Right now I suspect it's not a hybrid but the homeconsole just has 2 devices and someone not familiar with it may have just happen to have a glance at it with out fully knowing the ins and outs. Rumours of two platforms were around until about mid this year and what sparked those rumours, patents which are much more reliable than most sources.

On handhelds Akeos is right that studios working on handhelds won't know about consoles and so on, for example the is no point giving a DK for the HC when the studio in question has never done a console game.



Wyrdness said:
DanneSandin said:

Yeah, that's true. Further more, I think we've only heard rumors about two seperate devices once or twice, yes? Most things we hear seem to point towards one hybrid console.

A lot rumours are bandwagoning though so watch out, 2 devices under one OS that communicate makes far more sense as then the portable and home factor not only will not hamper eachothers design in anyway but it matches what Iwata said far more. Right now I suspect it's not a hybrid but the homeconsole just has 2 devices and someone not familiar with it may have just happen to have a glance at it with out fully knowing the ins and outs. Rumours of two platforms were around until about mid this year and what sparked those rumours, patents which are much more reliable than most sources.

On handhelds Akeos is right that studios working on handhelds won't know about consoles and so on, for example the is no point giving a DK for the HC when the studio in question has never done a console game.

@Bolded: But wouldn't it make sense for them to be able to choose which platform they work on? Nintendo can't just decide if you're gonna make portable games or not, can they? I'm pretty sure Capcom would like to develop a Monster Hunter game for Nintendo's HH, but if they got a HC dev kit instead... Well, then they wouldn't make a MH game for it, would they? Shouldn't Nintendo be asking, "So, you want the home console dev kit, or the portable dev kit?"

As of right now, I'm kinda devided. I'm not sure if this will be two destinct devices, one home console with a controller similar to Wii U's gamepad which you can take with you and play on, and one portable console with a lot more features (and maybe even Internet access?) compared to the HC's gamepad. Or if it's all just one hybrid device.

I found those leaked patents really intruiging, especially the possibility to connect your HC and HH to boost the power. Or linking two HC to boost the power. I saw a lot of posibilities in those patents!



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Well at least it's some news. We can't say the same for the past few months.



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