Norris2k said:
4 direct, tough, prepared questions about the "the birther issue", "the Irak war he supported", "Hillary's presidential look" and "his tax return". And zero for Clinton. Then, not exactly a question, but he forced him to answer to "Stop-and-frisk was ruled unconstitutional in New York, because it largely singled out black and Hispanic young men", because that seemt to imply "you can't do stop and frisk", "stop and frisk is racist", or "stop and frisk is unconstitutional". In fact it would have a little better as a question. And in fact that should have been Clinton that is stopped when she said "Stop and frisk is unconstitutional", because that is false, and not what Holt was saying. |
Stop-and-frisk as practiced in NYC was ruled unconstitutional "because it largely singled out black and Hispanic [young men]", just like he said. Blanket statements of "constitutional" and "unconstitutional" are equally wrong, and Trump only came off worse there because he was the one saying that the practice that was found unconstitutional was a great thing. Sometimes the moderator is biased, but sometimes "reality has a bias". Trump was pretty much calling for an unconstitutional practice to be implemented nationwide, and as a moderator you can't just let that stand. He didn't say "You were wrong" implying that Clinton was right; he just said "it was ruled unconstitutional because blah" and Trump cut him off before he could explain what he wanted to follow up on specifically.
And I just want to note that his other question wasn't about Trump's support of the Iraq war specifically. He asserted that it was a fact that he had supported the war before it began, and asked why his judgment on that issue was so much better than Clinton who also supported giving Bush the authority to go to war. The fight over whether he had in fact supported it arose naturally out of that disagreement on a point of fact.
(And, it seems, there is little evidence on the public record of what his opinion was before the war began. What little evidence exists shows weak support of it, while he claims that after that interview but before the war he became strongly against it in private conversations. It didn't take him very long to turn against the war, but I don't see evidence in his public comments to support the idea that he was strongly against it and had been for a while already. It looked more to me like he gradually soured on the war as it bogged down, similar to the rest of America, but maybe the transition was faster than average for him.)
I think that when he asked Clinton, "Do you think police are implicitly biased against black people?", that was just as tough a question as asking Trump about his judgment versus Clinton's in supporting going into Iraq (which he seemed to assert they both did). Not a very hardball question IMO compared to some others, but Trump just exploded about it and Clinton was better able to deal with her question.
3 to 0 or 4 to 1. One-sided, still, yes. I do think Trump is a bigger target considering all the crap that's come out of his mouth (all but one of those questions were on things he's said), but still one-sided. He could have asked Clinton about the basket of deplorables. But not 5 to 0.
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