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DJEVOLVE on 19 September 2016

 

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Zekkyou on 19 September 2016
hellfire45 said:

Also going to cost a gajillion dollars.  Have fun with that.

If Sony can sell the Pro for $400 in 2016, i'd be surprised if MS have to charge more than $450 for the Scorpio (even $400 isn't impossible, depending on the RAM and CPU upgrades). The Pro will likely be $350 by the time the Scorpio releases, and the average console gamer isn't going to spend $100+ on an upgrade comparable (though likely not identical) to the PS4 vs X1. MS know that.



Azuren on 19 September 2016
CGI-Quality said:
Drakrami said:

Microsoft is so scared they have to promise a bunch of vague promises to feel secured... We dont even know Scorpio specs. Hell, maybe even Microsoft doesnt know thats why they havent released them. There are no games that we know of they are releasing in the 2017 time frame. So what's the point of telling us they will be 4k native? 

Actually... 

 

  Xbox One Xbox One S Scorpio PS4 PS4 Slim PS4 Pro
CPU 1.75GHz 8-core AMD custom CPU 1.75GHz 8-core AMD custom CPU 8-core AMD custom CPU 1.6GHz 8-core AMD custom “Jaguar” CPU 1.6GHz 8-core AMD custom “Jaguar” CPU 8-core AMD custom “Jaguar” CPU
GPU Integrated AMD graphics clocked at 853MHz with 1.31 teraflops of performance Integrated AMD graphics clocked at 914MHz Integrated AMD graphics with 6 teraflops of performance Integrated AMD graphics clocked at 800MHz with 1.84 teraflops of performance Integrated AMD graphics clocked at 800MHz with 1.84 teraflops of performance Integrated AMD Polaris graphics with 4.2 teraflops of performance
RAM 8GB DDR3 8GB DDR3 TBD 8GB GDDR5 8GB GDDR5 8GB GDDR5
Storage 500GB (5,400rpm) hard drive, supports external hard drive storage 500GB, 1TB, 2TB (5,400rpm) hard drive options, supports external hard drive storage TBD 500GB (5,400rpm) hard drive. Storage drive can be swapped 500GB (5,400rpm) hard drive. Storage drive can be swapped 1TB
Dimensions 13.1x10.8x3.1 inches 11.6x8.9x2.5 inches TBD 12.01x10.8x2.0 inches 11x10x1.5 inches 12.8x11.6x2.1 inches
Weight 7.8 pounds 6.4 pounds TBD 6.2 pounds 4.6 pounds 7.2 pounds
Color Black Black and white TBD Black or white Black Black
Optical Drive Blu-ray/DVD 4K/HDR Blu-ray drive TBD Blu-ray/DVD Blu-ray/DVD Blu-ray/DVD
Networking Gigabit Ethernet, Wi-Fi A/B/G/N 2.4GHz and 5GHz Gigabit Ethernet, Wi-Fi A/B/G/N/AC 2.4GHz and 5GHz TBD Gigabit Ethernet, 802.11 B/G/N, 2.4GHz, Bluetooth 2.1 Gigabit Ethernet, 802.11 B/G/N/AC, Bluetooth 4.0

Gigabit Ethernet

802.11A/B/G/N/AC Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.0
Internet Subscription Xbox Live required to play online Xbox Live required to play online TBD PS Plus required to play online PS Plus required to play online PS Plus required to play online
Ports Power, HDMI in, HDMI out, 3x USB 3.0, S/PDIF, Kinect port, IR out Power, HDMI 2.0a in, HDMI 2.0a out, 3x USB 3.0, S/PDIF, Kinect port, IR out TBD HDMI, analog-AV out, 2xUSB 3.0, AUX, S/PDIF HDMI, analog-AV out, 2xUSB 3.1, AUX HDMI, 3x USB 3.1, 1x Gigabit Ethernet, 1x PS Camera
4K Support No Yes (video playback only) Yes No No Yes
HDR Support No Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Release Date November 22, 2013 August 2, 2016 TBD Holiday 2017 November 15, 2013 September 15, 2016 November 10, 2016
Release Price $499.99 $299.99 (500GB), $349.99 (1TB), $399.99 (2TB) TBD $399.99 $299.99 $399.99
Current Price $249.99 $299.99 TBD $349.99 $299.99 NA

 

They've begun to discuss the specs.

I... CGI, that's just a list that has "TBD" all up and down, with the exception of what is essentially "something with 6tf and 8 cores of something".



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PotentHerbs on 19 September 2016

All that power to hold second place lol.

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thismeintiel on 19 September 2016
Azuren said:
CGI-Quality said:

Actually... 

 

  Xbox One Xbox One S Scorpio PS4 PS4 Slim PS4 Pro
CPU 1.75GHz 8-core AMD custom CPU 1.75GHz 8-core AMD custom CPU 8-core AMD custom CPU 1.6GHz 8-core AMD custom “Jaguar” CPU 1.6GHz 8-core AMD custom “Jaguar” CPU 8-core AMD custom “Jaguar” CPU
GPU Integrated AMD graphics clocked at 853MHz with 1.31 teraflops of performance Integrated AMD graphics clocked at 914MHz Integrated AMD graphics with 6 teraflops of performance Integrated AMD graphics clocked at 800MHz with 1.84 teraflops of performance Integrated AMD graphics clocked at 800MHz with 1.84 teraflops of performance Integrated AMD Polaris graphics with 4.2 teraflops of performance
RAM 8GB DDR3 8GB DDR3 TBD 8GB GDDR5 8GB GDDR5 8GB GDDR5
Storage 500GB (5,400rpm) hard drive, supports external hard drive storage 500GB, 1TB, 2TB (5,400rpm) hard drive options, supports external hard drive storage TBD 500GB (5,400rpm) hard drive. Storage drive can be swapped 500GB (5,400rpm) hard drive. Storage drive can be swapped 1TB
Dimensions 13.1x10.8x3.1 inches 11.6x8.9x2.5 inches TBD 12.01x10.8x2.0 inches 11x10x1.5 inches 12.8x11.6x2.1 inches
Weight 7.8 pounds 6.4 pounds TBD 6.2 pounds 4.6 pounds 7.2 pounds
Color Black Black and white TBD Black or white Black Black
Optical Drive Blu-ray/DVD 4K/HDR Blu-ray drive TBD Blu-ray/DVD Blu-ray/DVD Blu-ray/DVD
Networking Gigabit Ethernet, Wi-Fi A/B/G/N 2.4GHz and 5GHz Gigabit Ethernet, Wi-Fi A/B/G/N/AC 2.4GHz and 5GHz TBD Gigabit Ethernet, 802.11 B/G/N, 2.4GHz, Bluetooth 2.1 Gigabit Ethernet, 802.11 B/G/N/AC, Bluetooth 4.0

Gigabit Ethernet

802.11A/B/G/N/AC Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.0
Internet Subscription Xbox Live required to play online Xbox Live required to play online TBD PS Plus required to play online PS Plus required to play online PS Plus required to play online
Ports Power, HDMI in, HDMI out, 3x USB 3.0, S/PDIF, Kinect port, IR out Power, HDMI 2.0a in, HDMI 2.0a out, 3x USB 3.0, S/PDIF, Kinect port, IR out TBD HDMI, analog-AV out, 2xUSB 3.0, AUX, S/PDIF HDMI, analog-AV out, 2xUSB 3.1, AUX HDMI, 3x USB 3.1, 1x Gigabit Ethernet, 1x PS Camera
4K Support No Yes (video playback only) Yes No No Yes
HDR Support No Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Release Date November 22, 2013 August 2, 2016 TBD Holiday 2017 November 15, 2013 September 15, 2016 November 10, 2016
Release Price $499.99 $299.99 (500GB), $349.99 (1TB), $399.99 (2TB) TBD $399.99 $299.99 $399.99
Current Price $249.99 $299.99 TBD $349.99 $299.99 NA

 

They've begun to discuss the specs.

I... CGI, that's just a list that has "TBD" all up and down, with the exception of what is essentially "something with 6tf and 8 cores of something".

True.  Though, going by that chart, I'm guessing the CPU is going to be the exact same as the one in the XBO, only upclocked similar to the one in the Pro.  I know some fans were hoping that the CPU was going to be top of the line, with 12 GB of RAM, and maybe a more powerful GPU, but still come in at $399.  Looks like it'll be what I suspected, the Pro, but with a better (or overclocked) GPU.  Granted, I guess they could still put more RAM in it, but I think MS is going to want to keep the price down.  I still think they are going to try to price this thing at $449-499, but given that the Pro will most likely be $349 by the time this thing launches, MS might try to launch at the same $399.



 

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binary solo on 20 September 2016
LivingMetal said:

 

She made the comment in an interview with USA Today recently (via NeoGAF). She said, "Any games we're making that we're launching in the Scorpio time frame, we're making sure they can natively render at 4K."

 

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/microsoft-developed-xbox-scorpio-games-will-run-na/1100-6443689/

= wriggle room. Deniability that they ever claimed all Scorpio games forwever will be natively 4K. And probably can be read to mean that actually many MS games on Scorpio won't be 4K natively. It's just that the games that will be releasing for Scoprio during the launch period (Holiday 2017) will all be native 4K.



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Lawlight on 20 September 2016
CGI-Quality said:
Lawlight said:

Don't you use yours for work?

That's one thing.

Well, there you go. I looked at the price of a gtx 1080, which apparently cannot do 4K/60fps and it's about $1,100 in Australia. 



Azuren on 20 September 2016
thismeintiel said:
Azuren said:

I... CGI, that's just a list that has "TBD" all up and down, with the exception of what is essentially "something with 6tf and 8 cores of something".

True.  Though, going by that chart, I'm guessing the CPU is going to be the exact same as the one in the XBO, only upclocked similar to the one in the Pro.  I know some fans were hoping that the CPU was going to be top of the line, with 12 GB of RAM, and maybe a more powerful GPU, but still come in at $399.  Looks like it'll be what I suspected, the Pro, but with a better (or overclocked) GPU.  Granted, I guess they could still put more RAM in it, but I think MS is going to want to keep the price down.  I still think they are going to try to price this thing at $449-499, but given that the Pro will most likely be $349 by the time this thing launches, MS might try to launch at the same $399.

Technology could change between now and then. Business strategies could also change. Until we get some more concrete details of the Scorpio that most speculation remain thoroughly labeled speculation. 



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exclusive_console on 20 September 2016

lol the native 4K thing is funny. Sure I expect Forza7 to be 4K and 60fps. I think Forza Apex on PC can do that not needing GTX titan or 1080. But other games to work on Xbone then I doubt they can achieve native 4K without having to compromise with fps or detail. Probably just have Xbone gfx at 4K. Also it seems more and more that they are targeting 4K users.



 

Thorstify on 20 September 2016

Awesome :)