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DamnTastic said:
So the thing I've learned from this video is that I should immediatly kill myself because there will always be 'the man' that 'sticks it' to me. If it is not slavery, it is democracy. So if you destroy everything of that and go live in the forest you will be a slave of nature. So basically the worst thing that can happen to you if you want to be totally free, is to be born.

Either that or become a being that becomes near eternal and above others, really that would be that bit closer to a version of freedom because nothing of human nature would be able to fully control you let alone do much. Even then by becoming like that you abandon your humanity and thus become something not human.



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hah, that was funny, the guy makes a great clown



VGPolyglot said:

Isn't that exactly what capitalism is doing? Mass starvation, endless wars and environmental catastrophe are all occurring under capitalism. So I can understand when people say that communism doesn't work: obvious it would never be perfect. However, it seems like that it's implying that capitalism does work, and with all of the ongoing problems I would say that it does not.

The point is what captialism. A true democracy, so not those 'democracies' with an authoritarian president like Zimbabwe or Venezuela or Iran, will almost never engage in a war against another democracy and if it does that, those wars will not be very bloody wars because of the popular opnion. The worst nightmare of a politician is to lose his voters. It's called the Democratic Peace Theory.

For the starvations, no democracy ever has underwend a famine, ofcourse my examples of Venezuela and Zimbabwe stand out because of their lack of freedom, both are centrelised socialist states with a killing bureacracy and corruption going through the roof. The theory of Amartya Sen is here a must read.

But you know.. communism, capitalism.. They are all systems of bending nature. Nature is unfair, nature doesn't care.



Chazore said:
DamnTastic said:
So the thing I've learned from this video is that I should immediatly kill myself because there will always be 'the man' that 'sticks it' to me. If it is not slavery, it is democracy. So if you destroy everything of that and go live in the forest you will be a slave of nature. So basically the worst thing that can happen to you if you want to be totally free, is to be born.

Either that or become a being that becomes near eternal and above others, really that would be that bit closer to a version of freedom because nothing of human nature would be able to fully control you let alone do much. Even then by becoming like that you abandon your humanity and thus become something not human.

lol reminds me of the ascended ancients in stargate. They managed to leave the curse of the enslaver called nature :p



DamnTastic said:

lol reminds me of the ascended ancients in stargate. They managed to leave the curse of the enslaver called nature :p

Remember the time when the Goa'uld  thought they could take on earth as space Egyptians =P, good times. 



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DamnTastic said:
VGPolyglot said:

Isn't that exactly what capitalism is doing? Mass starvation, endless wars and environmental catastrophe are all occurring under capitalism. So I can understand when people say that communism doesn't work: obvious it would never be perfect. However, it seems like that it's implying that capitalism does work, and with all of the ongoing problems I would say that it does not.

The point is what captialism. A true democracy, so not those 'democracies' with an authoritarian president like Zimbabwe or Venezuela or Iran, will almost never engage in a war against another democracy and if it does that, those wars will not be very bloody wars because of the popular opnion. The worst nightmare of a politician is to lose his voters. It's called the Democratic Peace Theory.

For the starvations, no democracy ever has underwend a famine, ofcourse my examples of Venezuela and Zimbabwe stand out because of their lack of freedom, both are centrelised socialist states with a killing bureacracy and corruption going through the roof. The theory of Amartya Sen is here a must read.

But you know.. communism, capitalism.. They are all systems of bending nature. Nature is unfair, nature doesn't care.

The United States is constantly at war, unless we're not counting that as a true democracy/ Also in the United States there are millions of starving people.



"When we become afraid of death, of injury and imprisonment, we become controllable."

Interesting. Wouldn't this statement imply that groups that tell people that there is an afterlife, thus making them not afraid of death, are actually a catalysts for freedom?



Shadow1980 said:
Oh boy. A 13-minute conspiracy video by Stefan Molyneux. *rolls eyes*
Mystro-Sama said:
That was so fucking stupid. So what is the alternative again?... Exactly. That guy made an entire fucking video about pseudo-deep bs. When we find a better system then we can have a discussion
Jumpin said:
He's one of those MRA beta-males who has his head so far up his own ass that the only knowledge he has is pure shit. If he ever manage to pull it out, it'll be to retrieve his tinfoil hat.
Lafiel said:
hah, that was funny, the guy makes a great clown

Ha! I bet you guys wouln't be hatin on poor Mr. Molyneux if you had seen this vid instead.



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zero129 said:

This was a very good thoughtful reply and i feel the very same way.

If only all them people you can see protesting against each other would stand together and protest against the banks and other leaders who would try keep us hating each other the would would maybe start changing for the better.Like in iceland sometimes i wish most people thought how the icelanders do.

I wish for that too, but I feel again as a species, we won't collectively strike against our oppressors until it hits us very hard like it did for the Romans or the past two world wars where everyone was practically involed and a lot was at stake.

 

Also 59 years ago they predicted our future nearly on point.

Then there is this little nugget on the banks:

See there are those who choose to ignore the system that controls humanity and call those who look into the system as "tin foil" people, but the reality is the tin foil hat people are just about right in most of what has been documented, thing is again unless we stand up and unite as one, the systems will continue to carry on and progress as they have done for centuries.

See I'm not some crack pot tin foil guy who thinks the world is out to get him, but I am intelligent enough to understand that it is in fact an easy concept to employ in making others do your bidding, history has shown us this for centuries and it has worked oh so well to a point where it's silly to deny that it isn't in effect today, it's always been employed one way or another, be it via war, slavery, hostile takeovers etc. If you can get someone to do something for you and control when and how they do it, then chances are many will consider taking up on that idea when given the chance, we are after all a species that loves taking opportunities that reward us with wealth and power.



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zero129 said:
VGPolyglot said:
This is exactly what communism is against: absolute power of a few and humans only being seen as a source of profit. Yet for some reason we are a hated group for being against slavery, poverty and inequality. Even the "communist" regimes that people generally associate the label with themselves admitted that they weren't communist: instead they merely stated that their goal was to reach it (which they obviously never intended on doing).

Really?. I dont really know much about communist but if this is what you guys are for maybe i should become one .

If you do, don't come expecting much...I am definitely a communist, but I'm also a realist and I know that the likelihood of a truly communist society is very low.