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Latest polls are showing that Drumpf is losing every single swing State.

http://www.vox.com/2016/8/15/12455240/donald-trump-polls-today



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SuaveSocialist said:
Latest polls are showing that Drumpf is losing every single swing State.

http://www.vox.com/2016/8/15/12455240/donald-trump-polls-today

That... would be a problem for his chances.

He made a comment on Friday that if he loses PA, it will mean there was cheating and that he will win 100% but when the polls say your are down, you better have a better plan than taking every 'swing state' to court.



CosmicSex said:
SuaveSocialist said:
Latest polls are showing that Drumpf is losing every single swing State.

http://www.vox.com/2016/8/15/12455240/donald-trump-polls-today

That... would be a problem for his chances.

He made a comment on Friday that if he loses PA, it will mean there was cheating and that he will win 100% but when the polls say your are down, you better have a better plan than taking every 'swing state' to court.

He can always try blaming the Clintons for JFK's assassi---oh, he wasted that one on Ted Cruz.  Oh well, I'm sure he can come up with some other insane conspiracy theory.  He really is turning the gop into a fringe party.



SuaveSocialist said:
CosmicSex said:

That... would be a problem for his chances.

He made a comment on Friday that if he loses PA, it will mean there was cheating and that he will win 100% but when the polls say your are down, you better have a better plan than taking every 'swing state' to court.

He can always try blaming the Clintons for JFK's assassi---oh, he wasted that one on Ted Cruz.  Oh well, I'm sure he can come up with some other insane conspiracy theory.  He really is turning the gop into a fringe party.

Yesterday, Rudy Guliani said there awas never a terrorist attack on US soil before Obama took office. Thats right the former mayor of New York.  its getting to the point where people sould feel insulted.  We all fucking know that 9/11 actually happend.  



Big news on campaign is Clinton campaign shifting funds away from Colorado and Pennsylvania and reallocating them in more competitive states. Right now appears Ohio, Florida, and North Carolina are major states that will be close. As I stated earlier being on offense like this means the Trump campaign has to counter in a North Carolina as trying to win it and Pennsylvania could lead to losing both.

The take away as of now is Clinton has several paths to victory now given the current polling. Can argue still early, but closing 8-12 point gaps at this stage is a major task. Once have more polling will do a revised Electoral Map of how I predict it is going to unfold.



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CosmicSex said:
SuaveSocialist said:

He can always try blaming the Clintons for JFK's assassi---oh, he wasted that one on Ted Cruz.  Oh well, I'm sure he can come up with some other insane conspiracy theory.  He really is turning the gop into a fringe party.

Yesterday, Rudy Guliani said there awas never a terrorist attack on US soil before Obama took office. Thats right the former mayor of New York.  its getting to the point where people sould feel insulted.  We all fucking know that 9/11 actually happend.  

I don't know how to respond to that.  



KrspaceT said:

(F.Y.I the War of 1812 was pushed by Southerners and Western Settlers, the Rural People. It was opposed by New England and other more urban areas. Low and behold, the war goes badly and the war they started threatens New Engand and New York the most.) 

(Also F.Y.I the Civil War was started by Southerners, who were at the time predominately Rural and dominated by slave holding plantation owners.)

As I remember it the War of 1812 was largely endorsed if not caused by New Englanders outraged over Britain interfering with our maritime activities—from their blockade of the [edit: Napoleon-controlled European] continent hurting our business to their forcibly impressing Americans into their navy.  If you can inform me to the contrary then I'm looking forward to it; Wikipedia does not lead me to believe my impression was very wrong.  

I also think it's a mistake to claim the North/South schism was primarily a matter of urban areas vs. rural ones.  Although the North was considerably more populous than the South, the North was also mostly rural (along with the South).  However, I will admit that the South was much more culturally and economically dominated by agriculture and especially plantations than was the case in the North.  Nevertheless, I stand by my statement that the difference was more than, and different from, "urban vs. rural". 



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I know I don't really add much to the discussion but I recommend watching CGP Grey's video to explain some elections politics stuff in the USA.

I find them entertaining but at the same I learned some stuff (kind of mindblowing aswell).


How the electoral college works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUS9mM8Xbbw

The trouble with electoral college

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wC42HgLA4k


Primary elections explained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_95I_1rZiIs

What if an electoral college is tied

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHEDXzOfENI


Bonus how big is the American 'empire' exactly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASSOQDQvVLU






http://www.270towin.com/maps/BB34b

Update!

Reviewing latest series of polls the big shift I have made to my map is moving Ohio from Clinton to Trump.  This makes the race much closer, but still has Clinton winning the presidency 273 to 265.  Trump is definitely surging in polls all around making what could have been a blowout look very tight.  Of course, with the debates still to go we could see major swings as this election cycle has defied norms already.



Polls are getting closer... Okay, just wait for the debates. Trump isn't the best debater and usually just rambles. If a mod actually calls him out on his bullshit (always being against Iraq and Libya war, and many more) I can see him tumbling in the polls. Hell, Matt Lauer was thrown under the bus for his weak ass mod against Trump by not calling bullshit.