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Peh said:
Up till now, there is no sign that these guys have an islamic background. Until it is known who they are and what their motives are I would like you to stop blindly accusing certain believe systems for being the cause of everything.

Read the news. It's everywhere.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3703705/Major-police-investigation-way-shots-fired-shopping-centre-Munich.html



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Peh said:
barneystinson69 said:

Evidence seems to be mounting that they're Islamic. They targeted children, and there are reports that they shouted "Allah Akbar as well.

Care to provide a source?

 

Don't listen to what the guy is saying, but this is from an eyewitness.



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RolStoppable said:
So what's the current status? Eight people killed, with a ninth dead body being presumably the one and only shooter who committed suicide after the crime.

In that case it wouldn't be islamic something, but more of a rather typical amok run.

Why does it matter if the person committed suicide? All these Jihad attacks have resulted in them dying anyway. 



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Acevil said:
Barozi said:

Obvious alt is obvious.

Btw. it looks like they were nationalists and not muslims.
A witness heard one of them say "fucking foreigners" and saw him wearing jump boots (typical for nazis).

There are quite a few videos online btw.
http://www.bild.de/news/inland/muenchen/schuesse-in-muenchen-46951822.bild.html

this is interesting as well

Wow, if that is true, this shifts the dynamic completely. 

This might still be connected to islamic terror, but I doubt it at this point.

The guy clearly says 'I'm german. I was born here' in response to someone calling him a filthy alien (the guy uses a german slang word specifically aimed at arabs akin to 'nigger') wanker. I couldn't quite figure the rest out but it sounds like he laments his social status and says he's in treatmet of some kind.

Mentally unstable kid going amok? Maybe inspired by american mall shootings?



10 is now the the death toll..

Their was also a guy this week attacking people with an axe this week in Germany and I think yesterday their was this guy who wanted to admit a suicide car explosion that failed in Australia.






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SuperNova said:
Acevil said:

Wow, if that is true, this shifts the dynamic completely. 

This might still be connected to islamic terror, but I doubt it at this point.

The guy clearly says 'I'm german. I was born here' in response to someone calling him a filthy alien (the guy uses a german slang word specifically aimed at arabs akin to 'nigger') wanker. I couldn't quite figure the rest out but it sounds like he laments his social status and says he's in treatmet of some kind.

Mentally unstable kid going amok? Maybe inspired by american mall shootings?

He could be an ethnic German, but so what? If he is linked to an islamic group, that is irrelevant. Either way, we keep hearing conflicting stories, so either story could be right.



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wtf Europe's condition is like a pile of trash, every places seem like they are doing real live action Die Hard movie with real terrorists. I already have a plan to go to Germany and see a doctor in Frankfurt, but i don't what to do now.



barneystinson69 said:
Peh said:
Up till now, there is no sign that these guys have an islamic background. Until it is known who they are and what their motives are I would like you to stop blindly accusing certain believe systems for being the cause of everything.

Well given how many jihad attacks have happened to Europe, its no surprise many are jumping too that conclusion. And given all the mounting evidence (attacking German kids in a McDonalds? I don't think a neo-nazi would do that), it is likely to be another Jihad attack.

If you go to 1:26 on this video, you'll see that Lebanese, Tunisians, Algerians, and Afghans are most represented in murders in Germany even though they are a minority. As a result, it's not accurate to say that there's an equal chance that an unidentified murderer is a migrant of a Muslim majority nation or a native German.

RolStoppable said:

What happened matters. If the killing spree doesn't match the behavior of islamic attacks, then it probably wasn't an islamic attack.

So... the No True Scotsman Islamist Fallacy. If the killers murdered in the name of Islam, then its an Islamic attack.



RolStoppable said:
barneystinson69 said:

Why does it matter if the person committed suicide? All these Jihad attacks have resulted in them dying anyway. 

What happened matters. If the killing spree doesn't match the behavior of islamic attacks, then it probably wasn't an islamic attack.

So shooting up a McDonalds with little kids with 2 other perpetrators doesn't sound at all like an Islamic attack?



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So far, i've checked several news sites and live tickers. No mention of islamic backround. As long as it is not being officially announced by the police, please stop to refering them as islamic terrorists or anything of this kind. You denounce a whole religious group.



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