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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Spencer: Scorpio won't do anything for you if you don't have a 4K TV

Vertigo-X on 15 June 2016
Bandorr said:
Vertigo-X said:
How on earth are so many of you misunderstanding what they're doing here?!

The original Xbox One will run Xbox One Games at 1080p resolution and below native (depending on the game) with up to 60 fps.
The Xbox One S will run Xbox One Games at 1080p native and 60 fps (read: not below).
The Xbox One Scorpio will run Xbox One Games at 4K (2160p) native and 60 fps (read: not below).

Spencer's statement about Scorpio not doing anything for you was in relation to the One S, NOT THE ORIGINAL. Meaning if you have a 1080p TV, the Scorpio won't have any advantage over the One S.

Cheezus, people...

What source says the the Xbox one S will run games at 1080p 60FPS constantly?

I may have to walk that one back; it seemed like an innocuous assumption to make but now seems fallacious.



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QUAKECore89 on 15 June 2016

Plan B.

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Stefan.De.Machtige on 15 June 2016

Phil spencer needs to check with the marketing department because these kind of interviews aren't helping micosoft.



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Soundwave on 15 June 2016
Shadow1980 said:
It's still an XBO, just enhanced to take advantage of 4K TV and VR. Still part of the same product family, like the New 3DS, DSi, GB Color, and Master System/Sega Mark III were to the 3DS, DS, Game Boy, and SG-1000. The Neo will likely be the same deal. Spec upgrades are not unprecedented. Nothing new under the sun. Don't expect anything else unprecedented in regards to sales or console cycles (and generations are absolutely dictated by sales).

It's a completely different chip set with a different CPU, completely different GPU, different RAM, that's 5x more powerful. 

It's as much of an XBO as the XBox 360 is. 

MS kinda has to say this to keep XBO sales from cratering entirely, this is the same thing as "Kinect will be a central part of every XBox One" ... yeah that lasted like ... 6 months. 

Actions speak louder than words, they are allowing developers to basically make Scorpio only games if they want and are not forcing parity, it basically means that once enough Scorpios are out there, devs will start making games specifically tailored to it.



Solid-Stark on 15 June 2016

To me, this confirms the Scorpio and Neo are meant to just render the games at 4K and pump out 60fps. No real improvements in textures and other goodies.



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JoeTheBro on 15 June 2016

The best news I've heard about scorpio yet.

If scorpio is just a 4K Xbox One, it won't screw up console generations.



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HokageTenshi on 15 June 2016

so Scorpio only bump resolution and not other effects?

doesn't make sense unless that is what developers were told to do...



Soundwave on 15 June 2016
HokageTenshi said:

so Scorpio only bump resolution and not other effects?

doesn't make sense unless that is what developers were told to do...

It isn't, MS already said developers are free to use the Scorpio's horsepower however they want. 



HokageTenshi on 15 June 2016
Soundwave said:

It isn't, MS already said developers are free to use the Scorpio's horsepower however they want. 

and now he saying such thing... 



SvennoJ on 15 June 2016

Nonsense. 1440p to 4K downscaled to 1080p will look miles better than 720p to 900p upscaled to 1080p. Maybe if you still have a 720p tv it won't make much of a difference. Still down scaling will add much nicer anti aliasing.

Actually I am still interested in the XBox One S if it can downscale 4K UHD blu-ray to full RGB 1080p. Normal blu-ray uses 4:2:0 chroma subsampling, which means color resolution is only at 960x540. Plus it only uses 220 shades per color (16-235).
4K UHD discs are still 4:2:0 chroma subsampled, yet now color resolution is at 1920x1080 with closer to a thousand shades per color. If it can properly downscale that to a full 256 shade 1920x1080 RGB image, my trusty 1080p projector will look better than it ever has with less compression artifacts as well. 1080p equipment is not obsolete, video has never taken full advantage of it.

That would be worth an early investment in an obsolete game machine for me. Will need a second UHD player anyway when 4K projectors become affordable.