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DonFerrari on 21 May 2016
Farsala said:
DonFerrari said:

And we are discussing two hallmark games... it isn't the case that GT5 have done poorly.. you just want to measure the one that stand taller.

And I never said they do poorly or suggesting anything like that.

My first post on the matter included this "PD do fine, but they can do better."

Any company or person can do better so I don't see the point of your comment them... how do you propose they up their game?? their franchise is the biggest on the genre and besides the mk every other pales to sale even 1/3 of its numbers



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Farsala on 22 May 2016
DonFerrari said:
Farsala said:

And I never said they do poorly or suggesting anything like that.

My first post on the matter included this "PD do fine, but they can do better."

Any company or person can do better so I don't see the point of your comment them... how do you propose they up their game?? their franchise is the biggest on the genre and besides the mk every other pales to sale even 1/3 of its numbers

All I am saying is they should use their budget more wisely or get more Sony marketing. The racing genre needs a revival imo, and with proper marketing it can happen with GT.



Ruler on 22 May 2016
Farsala said:
DonFerrari said:

I would need the source for those budget claims (but I can see a game with license payment for 1k models and several RW locations could become quite high), and GT on PS3 vs UC sales numbers are quite close (with both having their budgets of one game helping the next become cheaper).

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/uncharted-sequel-costing-usd-20-million

Uncharted 1: $20m

Uncharted 2:  $20m

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/GTA-5-Cost-265-Million-Develop-Market-58922.html

Uncharted 3: $25m

It's ~21m for Uncharted 1-3 vs ~11m for GT5.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Gran+Turismo&publisher=&platform=PS3&genre=&minSales=0&results=200

its 15m for GT5 and Prologoue 



Why i left PC gaming

 

(2015) Question for PS4 owners: if the situation would be reverse? would you still play on PS4?

(2015) The "I don't care PS4 is the most powerful console" thread

DonFerrari on 22 May 2016
Farsala said:
DonFerrari said:

Any company or person can do better so I don't see the point of your comment them... how do you propose they up their game?? their franchise is the biggest on the genre and besides the mk every other pales to sale even 1/3 of its numbers

All I am saying is they should use their budget more wisely or get more Sony marketing. The racing genre needs a revival imo, and with proper marketing it can happen with GT.

Still missing your point... they are doing plenty well... and different genres and scopes have a diffent budget and public. without better data we can't say your supposed objective is achievable.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Farsala on 22 May 2016
Ruler said:
Farsala said:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/uncharted-sequel-costing-usd-20-million

Uncharted 1: $20m

Uncharted 2:  $20m

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/GTA-5-Cost-265-Million-Develop-Market-58922.html

Uncharted 3: $25m

It's ~21m for Uncharted 1-3 vs ~11m for GT5.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Gran+Turismo&publisher=&platform=PS3&genre=&minSales=0&results=200

its 15m for GT5 and Prologoue 

Okay, then we need the budget for GT5P. The point in comparing them was to compare budgets and sales.

Could also add GT6 and TLOU, but we need the budgets for valid comparisons.



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Ruler on 22 May 2016
Farsala said:
Ruler said:

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Gran+Turismo&publisher=&platform=PS3&genre=&minSales=0&results=200

its 15m for GT5 and Prologoue 

Okay, then we need the budget for GT5P. The point in comparing them was to compare budgets and sales.

Could also add GT6 and TLOU, but we need the budgets for valid comparisons.

GT5Ps budget is in the GT5 budget



Why i left PC gaming

 

(2015) Question for PS4 owners: if the situation would be reverse? would you still play on PS4?

(2015) The "I don't care PS4 is the most powerful console" thread

Farsala on 22 May 2016
Ruler said:
Farsala said:

Okay, then we need the budget for GT5P. The point in comparing them was to compare budgets and sales.

Could also add GT6 and TLOU, but we need the budgets for valid comparisons.

GT5Ps budget is in the GT5 budget

Yeah I am not believing you, going to have to provide a source like I did.



Ruler on 22 May 2016
Farsala said:
Ruler said:

GT5Ps budget is in the GT5 budget

Yeah I am not believing you, going to have to provide a source like I did.

common logic is your source



Why i left PC gaming

 

(2015) Question for PS4 owners: if the situation would be reverse? would you still play on PS4?

(2015) The "I don't care PS4 is the most powerful console" thread

Farsala on 22 May 2016
Ruler said:
Farsala said:

Yeah I am not believing you, going to have to provide a source like I did.

common logic is your source

Logic that all games have their own budget? I guess this proves you have no source.



Ruler on 22 May 2016
Farsala said:
Ruler said:

common logic is your source

Logic that all games have their own budget? I guess this proves you have no source.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prologue

A prologue or prolog (Greek πρόλογος prólogos, from pro, "before" and lógos, "word") is an opening to a story that establishes the setting and gives background details, often some earlier story that ties into the main one


Why i left PC gaming

 

(2015) Question for PS4 owners: if the situation would be reverse? would you still play on PS4?

(2015) The "I don't care PS4 is the most powerful console" thread