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contestgamer on 24 May 2016
Ljink96 said:
Stay on topic, the fact is Trump isn't qualified. If qualification is based off of how "good" of a business man you are then get me Warren Buffet or Bill Gates to be president. At least they have morals and respect and try to give back to the world. Trump isn't qualified to be the President of the United States. He doesn't have viable connections in politics, his own frekin' party didn't want to stand behind him... God I could go on.

 

So what if he doesnt have connections? He's vicious, he will bully and threaten anyone that stands against him in to submission, I trust Trump to get his way. You don't need connections when you burn down everything in your path and have the resources and balls to do it. He's a one man army.



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contestgamer on 24 May 2016
PDF said:
hershel_layton said:

Not necessarily the point. The fact that she acts as though she's a saint is hilarious. Everyone knows Hillary isn't some honest, good politician who cares for the people of the US.

Whether you agree with her policies or not she has one of the most impressive resumes to run for the office in quite sometime.  She is able to speak about important matters from the economy to foriegn policy with depth.  Something Trump is unable to do.

Resume doesn't matter, Hitler had quite the resume too. Only policies matter, I dont give a damn about her resume, all it shows is that she's the best corporate puppet to come along perhaps in US history.



contestgamer on 24 May 2016
CosmicSex said:
Zeroroute said:
At this point no candidate feels qualified to me this time

I don't understand this sentiment.  She has been a senator and a secatary of state.  She has held public offce.   Having had years and  years in goverment having held offices before she seems to have the experience to qualify.  In absolute terms, she is actually qualified. 

She's qualified to be the greatest corporate puppet in US history, you're right.



Natsu on 24 May 2016
shikamaru317 said:

They're both about as crooked as this tree:

Hm.. Needs more crookedness 



contestgamer on 24 May 2016
PDF said:
DivinePaladin said:

When that political depth comes from a systematic Bush-era "nation-building" campaign as SoS and eight years in the Senate during which she passed very little legislation, and the economic depth comes from bending and sometimes outright breaking federal laws with the Clinton Foundation and now with coordination with Super PACs, I can't consider it good depth. That's specifically the depth we don't need, coming from a progressive here. 

What nation building?  Libya? Would you have let Gadaffi slaughter his people?  

She was a Senator during a time which the Republicans controlled the Senate and there was a Republican president. Very difficult time to get laws passed as a democrat.

Her tax plan is the most reasonable and the capital gain part to further incentivizing longer investments is fantastic.  She for raising the minimum wage.  She understands that you shouldn't just say things like "we need to break up the banks" without having a real plan.  Despite being pulled to the left by Bernie and the rise of populism.  It's clear that she understands that free trade is still a better route than being isolationist.  

She is a bit of a Hawk for a democrat when it comes for Foreign Policy but she understands the waters well.  Has vast experience working with most world leaders.  The last of the Iran sanctions, the ones that really broke the camel back before Obama deal were largely completed due to her efforts.

The two for one deal with Bill is plus.  The guy who went over to get Americans back from North Korea,  and presided over balancing the budget with an opposition party in congress.   

 

Between Trump and Hillary it's a no brainer.  As Mark Cuban recently said you should go with the Devil you know instead of the Devil you don't. 

 

What nation building?  Libya? Would you have let Gadaffi slaughter his people?  

Keyword: "his own people" It's his country, not Hillary's. The US should mind its own business unless a country attacks another sovreign country, not itself.

 

And no, you should go with the one you're not sure is a devil vs the one you know is a Devil. Hillary has a lot of political history and it's clear she's a corporate shill. With Trump at least it'll be a surprise. Maybe a terrible one but maybe not. I'd rather take the gamble on that than vote for the definitive devil we know.



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Natsu on 24 May 2016

Lets just make Bill Gates president :P



contestgamer on 24 May 2016
barneystinson69 said:
Shadow1980 said:

He's qualified only in the Constitutional sense, i.e., he's at least 35 years old, is a natural-born citizen of the United States, and has been a U.S. resident for at least 14 years. Other than that, he's no more qualified to be President than I am. Being a businessman doesn't necessarily make one a good politician. The skills don't necessarily translate, plus governments are not the same kind of institution as businesses are. Governments are non-profit, and in a democratic federal republic like the U.S., the power structure is much different from the nigh-totalitarian structure of the typical corporation, where power is completely top-down. The President can't just go around saying "You're fired!" to everyone, except maybe his own cabinet. Trump possesses exactly zero experience in any government office, not Congress, not a state legislature, not a city council, not as a governor or mayor. He has no formal education in law. He never served in the military. He isn't even that great of a businessman. His greatest accomplishment is probably being a WWE Hall of Fame inductee.

We've had a couple of other businessmen as President before, namely the Bushes, who made their millions in the oil industry. But unlike Trump they had prior experience in politics. Bush, Sr. was at various times a congressman, CIA director, ambassador to the UN, RNC chairman, and Vice President, and Dubya was governor of Texas. Even with those qualifications, the Bushes weren't exactly paragons of fiscal responsibility when they were President. Aside from them, "businessman" was never really a profession of men who became President. The majority of past presidents were lawyers, and they usually had some kind of military experience and/or experience in other major government offices. In other words, they had at least some working knowledge, either through education or experience, of at least some of the things you'd expect a President to know. By that standard, Trump is a "know-nothing" in more than one sense.

This. He has no experience at all with politics, so why should he be elected to office?

That's exactly why. He's not a corporate sellout like every politician



contestgamer on 24 May 2016
PDF said:
contestgamer said:

Resume doesn't matter, Hitler had quite the resume too. Only policies matter, I dont give a damn about her resume, all it shows is that she's the best corporate puppet to come along perhaps in US history.

Well, you are in a thread about being qualified.

 

Which she isn't. Having a long resume detailing how you're the biggest corporate sellout in US history should be a disqualifier for the presidency, not a qualifier.



Ljink96 on 24 May 2016
contestgamer said:
Ljink96 said:
Stay on topic, the fact is Trump isn't qualified. If qualification is based off of how "good" of a business man you are then get me Warren Buffet or Bill Gates to be president. At least they have morals and respect and try to give back to the world. Trump isn't qualified to be the President of the United States. He doesn't have viable connections in politics, his own frekin' party didn't want to stand behind him... God I could go on.

 

So what if he doesnt have connections? He's vicious, he will bully and threaten anyone that stands against him in to submission, I trust Trump to get his way. You don't need connections when you burn down everything in your path and have the resources and balls to do it. He's a one man army.

Oh man, it's not that simple. Just because you're president doesn't mean you do whatever the heck you want to. You can't issue attacks just because you want to. There's this thing called congress which has to approve whatever Trump does. And don't for a second, ever think, that if we do bomb other conuntries that those countries and their allies won't strike back. World War 3 would be invevitable and millions would be killed with the technology we possess now. To have someone as hotheaded as Trump not only put America in more trouble than we need, but Americans will surely die out of his stupidity. We wouldn't have to bomb anybody if we felt that we had to get inovolved with the Middle East to begin with. WE started ISIS. WE started the Taliban. WE created Binladen and Hussein. And they have every right to act the way they're acting towards the US.

Trump is all talk. And there's no way America would let him in. He's a racist, a bigot, and a child. He has no decent political experience and would effectively become a puppet if elected because of this. Burning everything down is foolhardy and ignorant. You don't even go into any position with anger and malice in your heart. If your drive is fueled by destruction, nothing good can come from it. Start Bombing people and I guaranttee World War 3 will erupt and it will be ugly as hell. The weaponry we have today is leagues ahead of what we had in 1945. We don't need somebody like Trump unless millions of Americans have a deathwish.



CosmicSex on 24 May 2016
contestgamer said:
CosmicSex said:

I don't understand this sentiment.  She has been a senator and a secatary of state.  She has held public offce.   Having had years and  years in goverment having held offices before she seems to have the experience to qualify.  In absolute terms, she is actually qualified. 

She's qualified to be the greatest corporate puppet in US history, you're right.

Right, we should just elect the corporation itself...

Well, the topic is that Trump is not qualified.  And given his lack of experience in office this is a fact.   If would be like applying for a position as a System Admin with no computer experience.  Every thing I am see are oponions but she does in fact have experineces in exectutive government positions.  This is not a suggestion, it is reality.