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Forums - Politics Discussion - United States: Should we end the war on Drugs?

mornelithe on 12 April 2016
barneystinson69 said:
mornelithe said:

In fact, it could do the exact opposite, as it's clearly started doing in Washington and Colorado.  The potential tax windfall could fund education and prevention programs if it's legalized countrywide.  I can appreciate your view, and I basically look at it the same way I do cigarettes or alcohol.  Neither are particularly useful to society but trying to ban them is a fools errand, and far more expensive in just about every way.

What do you mean? I'm supportive of legalizing it. For what its worth, better for someone to be taking weed than taking heroin. And like I said, the billions of dollars that could be saved from it. That money could be used to reduce the deficit, or be put back in other parts of the economy.

???  I wasn't saying you weren't supportive of it.  I meant not only would it save billions, it'd probably create billions more in taxable revenue, well, it's not probable, it actually would just going by Colorado and Washingtons data.  Sorry wasn't arguing with you :)



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SuperNova on 12 April 2016

I'd say it depends on the drug.

Soft drugs like cannabis have a lot of benefits to legalizing them and only very few drawbacks. A controlled market, ensures better quality, healthy tax inflow, more jobs and less crime.

Hard drugs would need prescriptions imo, wich again leads to problems with corruption and black markets all over again.
At the same time I don't think Heroin, Chrystal Meth or MDMA should be sold over the counter.
Heavy adics should be able to get prescriptions to clean needles and clean drugs, but their use needs to be monitored, and they shouldn't be allowed to take care of children. (We had some horrific cases of child neglect and even children dying of overdose because they took their foster parents drugs.)
So hard drugs would aways come with big costs attached to them, even if they were legalized.



method114 on 12 April 2016
Nautilus said:
Its kind of a bit the same reason every country has laws.If you dont estabilish rules and punishment for things that can potentially destroy yourself/others, the world would just descent into chaos.So yes, war on Drugs on ANY country is important.

Drugs didn't become illegal for a long time while America was being built into the great nation it is today. So no your wrong.



method114 on 12 April 2016
sundin13 said:
"All research on successful drug policy shows that treatment should be increased
and law enforcement decreased, while abolishing mandatory minimum sentences."

I heard this during a system of a down song. Prison Song I'm pretty sure.



method114 on 12 April 2016
barneystinson69 said:
mornelithe said:

In fact, it could do the exact opposite, as it's clearly started doing in Washington and Colorado.  The potential tax windfall could fund education and prevention programs if it's legalized countrywide.  I can appreciate your view, and I basically look at it the same way I do cigarettes or alcohol.  Neither are particularly useful to society but trying to ban them is a fools errand, and far more expensive in just about every way.

What do you mean? I'm supportive of legalizing it. For what its worth, better for someone to be taking weed than taking heroin. And like I said, the billions of dollars that could be saved from it. That money could be used to reduce the deficit, or be put back in other parts of the economy.

The money should be used to open free rehab centers for drug addicts. I can't tell you the number of people who tried to get help but were just flat out broke and couldn't afford treatment. This one girl I know was finally able to go when she found out she was still on her fathers healthcare which would pay for it. She got help and even though she has relapsed here and there she now has her own place (before she had to sleep with guys just to  have a place to stay, yes I did offer her my apt without the sex but she refused for reasons I can't get into). Her parents were getting their house taken from them and didn't have a place for her to stay. She is like one of two people I know who went to rehab and got help and are doing much better now. We need to make rehab more avaliable for these people. Not throwing them in jail and hoping they come out and stop using.