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Kennel83 on 26 February 2016
Darwinianevolution said:
Kennel83 said:
Hint: It´s always bad with Nintendo. Because Nintendo is dooooomed!

Now seriously, I think they´ll be more than fine. There are plenty of 3ds games that will sell a lot, more wii u games, mobile games, amiibo, NX... there´s the new pokemon game coming!

I'm sure Pokemon Go alone is going to bring enough sweet sweet cash to Nintendo. They really needed to make the Pokemon Direct longer to talk about it.

I hope so. I would love it if they had success in that market. I'm hopeful as they mentioned that mobile games would work as a way to grab people's attention and try to interest them into Nintendo franchises. For me, the day people forget about Nintendo franchises would be a sad day for gaming. If people only buy the mobile games I would be okay with that. But at least people would be playing kirby games, animal crossing games etc.



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tak13 on 26 February 2016
OneKartVita said:
Miyamotoo said:

Sony with PS3 at beginning had years of losses, Nintendo in their worst gen ever with 3DS and Wii U will have only 2 year of losses in 3DS/Wii U life cycle, and they will finish 3DS/Wii U gen with profit. Nintendo always making profit, same couldnt said for Sony (PS) and espacily Microsoft (Xbox).

They haven't always made a profit.  Their company's value was around 80BN before the 3DS and Wii U.  They are now down to around 15BN. Will the NX continue the decline over the next 5 years or bounce them back.  

 

PS. (pun intended)  let's keep this on topic about Nintendo.  No need to bring Sony or Microsoft into this. 

 

Goodnightmoon said:

They will be swiming in money in just a year. Wait and see.

They're going to invest in swimming pools made from money?  that sounds like a bad investment to me.  

 

Value? When it was so high? Do you mean share price/market cap?



Zugdar on 26 February 2016

System relase years are never that good. Too much capitol is spent on making and sending the systems before the money can come back. Nothing out of the usual here.



Goodnightmoon on 26 February 2016
OneKartVita said:
Goodnightmoon said:

They will be swiming in money in just a year. Wait and see.

They're going to invest in swimming pools made from money?  that sounds like a bad investment to me.  

Maybe. But they´ll only need 1 hour of pokemon Sun/Moon sales to make a dozen of those anyways.



Fei-Hung on 26 February 2016
CaptainExplosion said:
Soleron said:
Trying to blame it on exchange rates when it's really that they're just not releasing games this year.

Twilight Princess HD, Pokken Tournament and Star Fox Zero say "Hi.".

Fei-Hung said:
Nintendo should have gone solo with the mobile leap and launched it from a new studio with the HQ in the states. 

They could have made some really small but profitable games from their back catalogue like:

Dr Mario 
A simplified Pokemon game 
A Tamagochi style Pokemon app
A endless runner Mario game with a take on some of the famous levels 

I think one of the most important things Nintendo can do is partner with MS, Sony or both to create crossover games. This like:

LBP VS Mario Kart racing 
SSB VS PSASBR 
Release a Nintendo pack on LBP 

In other words "Go third party", which would lead to them making LESS money.

And you didn't even mention anything in that list regarding crossover games with Microsoft.

 

Not saying they should go third party. There is huge difference in crossover games and going third party. 

 

With MS I found it harder to come up with similar games that would allow a cross over to work other than Banjo and Mario racing. 

 



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tak13 on 26 February 2016
Miyamotoo said:
OneKartVita said:

Yeah it really couldn't have gone worse.  From the top to the bottom.  But are we at rock bottom?  Will 2016 level off the decline and will growth return on 2017 onwards or is the decline going to continue. 

It could be much worse, Nintendo could actually lose money, but despite terrible sales they making solid profit, even with slashed forecast it will be solid profit for Nintendo.

 

!!!!!!!!!Exactly!!!!!!!!! Soundwave's post is overdramatic( not even the nintendo heads who are running this buisness and relying on it, wouldn't be so overemotional) and probably vindictive because nintendo, hasn't satisfied his desires buisness-wise so far, I hope nx will do that, so soundwave cools down. ( I wasn't really expecting someone to take it so seriously) Let me add to your comment, that if 3ds and wii u were successors of gc and gba we wouldn't have such exaggerating comments. if you know what I mean. As for the comment about software by soundwave, the only drawback is no third party support of wii u and a deficient one on 3ds, so almost no royalties by third parties, because nintendo's software is doing extremely well regardless hardware sales, I mean 7.24m mario kart 8 on 12.6m wii u threatening super mario kart 8.76m on 50m installbase, or pokemon xy 15m near diamond/pearl 18m on the almighty giant, ds.

Miyamotoo on 26 February 2016
OneKartVita said:
Miyamotoo said:

Sony with PS3 at beginning had years of losses, Nintendo in their worst gen ever with 3DS and Wii U will have only 2 year of losses in 3DS/Wii U life cycle, and they will finish 3DS/Wii U gen with profit. Nintendo always making profit, same couldnt said for Sony (PS) and espacily Microsoft (Xbox).

They haven't always made a profit.  Their company's value was around 80BN before the 3DS and Wii U.  They are now down to around 15BN. Will the NX continue the decline over the next 5 years or bounce them back.  

 

PS. (pun intended)  let's keep this on topic about Nintendo.  No need to bring Sony or Microsoft into this. 

Actually they had just two years of losses in their history (look picture above). My point is they making profit in generation even when they have terible sales like Wii Us.



Miyamotoo on 26 February 2016
Pavolink said:
Not good. But they seek for this disaster with their horrible management decisions.

That management with horrible decisions keep making profit for Nintendo despite terrible Wii U sales and transition.



Platina on 26 February 2016

Exchange rates do affect things though.. maybe not to that extent, but it can really cause impacts on the economy D:

Still remember the time when 3DS games were at most $40..



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Ruler on 26 February 2016
Miyamotoo said:
OneKartVita said:

They're making profit because the Wii U and 3DS were developed years ago so they can be sold at a profit. Naturally with a new console you expect the graph to rise but in 5 years will it be back below this point.  Because that's how the cycle goes.  Peaks and troughs.  

 

Right now we're about to go from a trough to a peak.  it's the natural cycle.  The question is how big will the peak be and how low will the next trough go.

Sony with PS3 at beginning had years of losses, Nintendo in their worst gen ever with 3DS and Wii U will have only 2 year of losses in 3DS/Wii U life cycle, and they will finish 3DS/Wii U gen with profit. Nintendo always making profit, same couldnt said for Sony (PS) and espacily Microsoft (Xbox).

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