Wyrdness said: Poor argument as financial executives have been getting away with illegal activities for decades looks at the situation with the banks, no one has gone to jail, finance holds a lot of power over politics and law because they have influence over the flow of money, HSBC the biggest bank in the world were confirmed to be laundering money for criminals, you're naive if you think it's all straight forward. Loopholes aren't legal either hence why they're often closed and you find many businesses do face fines as well for this, the are people who have been convicted for this in the US as well. |
You say that financial executives have been getting away with this for decades and that no one has gone to jail but you also mention people going to jail for it including businesses been fined. Choose one or the other, you can't have both!
Authorities only have as much power to act as they do for evidence and HSBC got fined 40 million swiss francs recently so justice can be served ...
Wyrdness said: You don't seem to get what's said here, that salary you're getting is nothing the only reason you're paid what you are now is because of the law otherwise companies would never pay you no matter how good you are I think you're dreaming here if you think companies will look after you. What is being given to you by one hand is being taken by the other hand, my example highlights this perfectly as what you're being paid is what will go on to pay back the system while they keep a large chunk of the pie scot free, you try to dismiss the example yet have presented nothing that concretely challenges it. |
Salaries aren't nothing. It's the businesses that pay us our own salaries, the law doesn't give us a damn! If a company doesn't want to pay it's employees then they can both go look elsewhere. Companies do care about their employees, at least their high quality/high value ones such as doctors, engineers, managers, and etc. It's like I say, companies will pay you for what your truly worth so salaries are largely meritocratic. The reason why less fortunate are the ones more likely to keep circulating that wealth is because most of them don't know how to break that cycle ...
Wyrdness said: The part about Greece tells me you don't fully know the situation, do you know why Greece borrows so much? It's because of taxes, no one was really paying taxes for decades even to the point of over a century they were lax on taxes so the country's finances had to be made up by borrowing, taxes are what fund developed countries. Heres some knowledge from working inside finance myself in the last century Greece has defaulted 10 times because the has never been strict effort to collect money and evasion of tax was common. If it weren't for them being in the Euro the other countries in the EU may have even been more harsh in the bailout money terms on what they owe and this is money they have to pay back. |
That's cause the Greece government is incompetent. Either that or it's much worse. They've had a tax revenue of at least 18% since 1995! That means everyone in Greece ponied up 18% of it's income just for the government ...
I fail to see why the taxation system is an issue when they've been paying that much for a long time ...