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Miyamotoo on 19 January 2016
Thunderbird77 said:
Miyamotoo said:
Thunderbird77 said:
Miyamotoo said:

TP port wasn't necessary at all, Nintendo just could leave it only GC version and force people to buy GC controller in order to play game on Wii, but they wanted strong launch title for Wii that will go very well with Wii Sports and they wanted to sell few millions copies of game on Wii too, those are resons why they ported game on Wii, and from those same reasons they will port Zelda U on NX and make it launch title.

They could do that but if they ACTUALLY WANTED TO SELL IT TO WII OWNERS, porting was the best choice. Forcing people to buy another controller would severly reduce sales. That's why there's no reason to port Zelda U to anything.

They could sale GC controller with game or sale just separate GC controller, we already saw something similar with Skyward Sword and Motion Plus.

Again main reasons why they port TP to Wii and why they will port Zelda U and make it launch title for NX are because in that way they will have killer app for launch of complete new platform and because they will sell few millions of NX copie of a game.

They could do that if they were stupid, bundling a GC controller with a GC game just for the people buying it to play on wii, when it was cheap to make a port. motion plus is a small acessory, far cheaper than a controller and thus easier to bundle.

Again, reasons they don't have to port Zelda U to wii u's successor (we don't know if it is NX) is because anyone can just buy the game and play it on Wii U's successor. No extra controller, just put the game on the system and play it. Enough of this talk.

Like I wrote at first, TP porting on Wii and very likely possible Zelda U porting on NX doesn't have anything with controls, its all about strong launch title and much better sales for game.

Again, we don't know if NX will have BC at all, and if will have BC we don't know if it will need Wii U controller in order to play it. Point is If you make Zelda U NX game too and launch it with NX, use it to promote NX and reverse use NX to promote game, you will definitely have much stronger sales of game than if it's Wii U exclusive. No to mentione being NX launch title very help launch. Its common business sense, basically you have only positive staffs making Zelda U port like NX launch title, you dont have any negative staffs.



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Soundwave on 19 January 2016

I think Nintendo not dropping the Wii U price is another tell tale sign they've given up on the platform.

If they're serious about this being something they're going to back for another two years basically, they'd be trying a lot harder to increase the userbase in a meaningful manner.

Instead it seems they are content just selling the same low 3 mill/year Wii Us each year and aren't willing to cut the price because they would incur unnecessary losses. They don't believe in this platform at all.

They've given up on this system. If they were really behind it they would be aggressive in cutting the price like the 3DS or how Microsoft is fighting tooth and nail for the XBox One. Nintendo? Doesn't give two craps about the Wii U, they were willing to fight for the 3DS, but with Wii U once the casuals didn't show up, Nintendo knew they were fucked for the generation. 

They are just riding this thing out now, they know they're only going to sell a paltry 14-17 million and they've known this for a while, they're not willing to cut the price other than some "flash drops" for a couple of weeks over the holidays but that's it. They view it as a failed platform and are just hoping to recoup the maximum amount of money from the core Nintendo faithful willing to buy it. That's why it's stuck at $300. 



wombat123 on 19 January 2016
Jay70sgamer said:
What everyone is missing is that ,we will find out in April or May definitely if the Nintendo Nx is coming out this year ...the fiscal year ends March 31....Nintendo will soon after have projections for the next fiscal year......it will show how many units they intend to sell for the fiscal year.....(example if they state they have projections to sell 20 million units ..let's say 2 millions wii u's and let's say 5 or 6 million 3ds worldwide ......it would be somewhat obvious that the Nintendo Nx will arrive in 2016) for the fiscal year....(2016-2017)

The fact that the majority of Nintendo's significant 1st/2nd party commitments to the Wii U and 3DS will have been completed before the begining of the next Japanese fiscal year save for Star Fox (delayed), Zelda (delayed) and Federation Force(probably delayed to be retooled) is another sign to me that they're cleaning up their plates in anticipation of a 2016 NX release.



Thunderbird77 on 19 January 2016
Wyrdness said:
Thunderbird77 said:

Wii motion plus was a small and cheap acessory, far cheaper than a full controller and was only partially bundled.

 

WMP would cost a lot more then a GC controller because it was more recent tech and it's also well known standard controllers are dirt cheap to make, they've been sold with a massive mark up in price since the 90s. The's practically little change in the tech that was in the N64 controller and the GC's, companies just charge you 30 odd quid as standard to make huge profit it's no secret, this is why the Wiimote was the most expensive controller as MC tech was more modern yet even that was bundled with some games. So again bundling is no issue for them.

Motion plus retailed for like $20 whn it launched. It costed a lot less  than any full controller.





Wyrdness on 19 January 2016
Thunderbird77 said:

Motion plus retailed for like $20 whn it launched. It costed a lot less  than any full controller.

 

It cost more then a GC controller would have at the time of TPs launch and again controllers are sold with huge mark up, developing a WMP would easily cost more then developing a GC controller.



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Kennel83 on 19 January 2016

Well, I agree with you in some way. The wii u is not getting replaced this year because the NX is not a replacement for it, it's just a third pillar :P
You know what, you may be right, but I would be really happy if the NX home is in the end released this year. I like my wii u, it's my only console this generation but I feel like I've had enough of it, if some of the patents are really going to be in the NX then I'll gladly welcome it.
Also, I need my new Mario and Zelda, Pikmin and Animal Crossing.



Thunderbird77 on 19 January 2016
Miyamotoo said:
Thunderbird77 said:

They could do that if they were stupid, bundling a GC controller with a GC game just for the people buying it to play on wii, when it was cheap to make a port. motion plus is a small acessory, far cheaper than a controller and thus easier to bundle.

Again, reasons they don't have to port Zelda U to wii u's successor (we don't know if it is NX) is because anyone can just buy the game and play it on Wii U's successor. No extra controller, just put the game on the system and play it. Enough of this talk.

Like I wrote at first, TP porting on Wii and very likely possible Zelda U porting on NX doesn't have anything with controls, its all about strong launch title and much better sales for game.

Again, we don't know if NX will have BC at all, and if will have BC we don't know if it will need Wii U controller in order to play it. Point is If you make Zelda U NX game too and launch it with NX, use it to promote NX and reverse use NX to promote game, you will definitely have much stronger sales of game than if it's Wii U exclusive. No to mentione being NX launch title very help launch. Its common business sense, basically you have only positive staffs making Zelda U port like NX launch title, you dont have any negative staffs.

It was because of controls. Porting a game doesn't change it's base. Zelda U is a Wii U game. If nintendo wants the game to push wii u's successor hardware, they can just market the game a lot + making sure people know it's compatible with both systems. In the end, while it is possible, nintendo has no reason to port it.





Thunderbird77 on 19 January 2016
Wyrdness said:
Thunderbird77 said:

Motion plus retailed for like $20 whn it launched. It costed a lot less  than any full controller.

 

It cost more then a GC controller would have at the time of TPs launch and again controllers are sold with huge mark up, developing a WMP would easily cost more then developing a GC controller.

No, it would not. And it wasn't even bundled with every SS but was a a wii add on. Bundling a GC controller with a GC game would be redundant, while just a partial bundle wouldn't let all wii owners buy it.





Wyrdness on 19 January 2016
Soundwave said:

I think Nintendo not dropping the Wii U price is another tell tale sign they've given up on the platform.

If they're serious about this being something they're going to back for another two years basically, they'd be trying a lot harder to increase the userbase in a meaningful manner.

Instead it seems they are content just selling the same low 3 mill/year Wii Us each year and aren't willing to cut the price because they would incur unnecessary losses. They don't believe in this platform at all.

They've given up on this system. If they were really behind it they would be aggressive in cutting the price like the 3DS or how Microsoft is fighting tooth and nail for the XBox One. Nintendo? Doesn't give two craps about the Wii U, they were willing to fight for the 3DS, but with Wii U once the casuals didn't show up, Nintendo knew they were fucked for the generation. 

They are just riding this thing out now, they know they're only going to sell a paltry 14-17 million and they've known this for a while, they're not willing to cut the price other than some "flash drops" for a couple of weeks over the holidays but that's it. They view it as a failed platform and are just hoping to recoup the maximum amount of money from the core Nintendo faithful willing to buy it. That's why it's stuck at $300. 

 

This as well, not dropping the price when in this situation indicates they're just getting as much profit out of it as possible before it's replaced, they had chances to drop the price when MK, Smash and even Splatoon arrived. This further indicates that NX was already on their minds as far back as then.



Thunderbird77 on 19 January 2016
Soundwave said:

I think Nintendo not dropping the Wii U price is another tell tale sign they've given up on the platform.

If they're serious about this being something they're going to back for another two years basically, they'd be trying a lot harder to increase the userbase in a meaningful manner.

Instead it seems they are content just selling the same low 3 mill/year Wii Us each year and aren't willing to cut the price because they would incur unnecessary losses. They don't believe in this platform at all.

They've given up on this system. If they were really behind it they would be aggressive in cutting the price like the 3DS or how Microsoft is fighting tooth and nail for the XBox One. Nintendo? Doesn't give two craps about the Wii U, they were willing to fight for the 3DS, but with Wii U once the casuals didn't show up, Nintendo knew they were fucked for the generation. 

They are just riding this thing out now, they know they're only going to sell a paltry 14-17 million and they've known this for a while, they're not willing to cut the price other than some "flash drops" for a couple of weeks over the holidays but that's it. They view it as a failed platform and are just hoping to recoup the maximum amount of money from the core Nintendo faithful willing to buy it. That's why it's stuck at $300. 

Not cutting the price just means they think it wouldn't increase hardware numbers enough to justify the cut. Wii U may or may not get replaced this year, but it's lack of a pricecut has nothing to do with "nintendo giving up on it".