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WebMasterFlex on 12 December 2015
kurasakiichimaru said:
Carl2291 said:
kurasakiichimaru said:

Considering Vgchartz and it's record. I wouldn't bet on it with my life.

I just like it when people actually have data to support what they say on the forums.

That way, the numbers can be as accurate as ever.

Well I like it when Vgchartz always lowball on PS4 numbers despite the data presented to support the contrary. Looks like you a hit a wall with that argument.

Ouch.





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Aragami on 15 December 2015
binary solo said:
Aragami said:
LOL still 32.3 Millions on Global Hardware, are they serious? They sold almost 1 million in a week, and they dont change the global number for ps4?? L

Yes they did. w/e 21 Nov PS4 LTD is now 29.89M that's only 311K under the Sony announcement, which if that's what VGC originally had for PS4's LTD when Sony announced everyone would have said "good job VGC." VGC doesn't need to have a number exactly the same as Sony's, after all, Sony's number is also an estimate, just a far more accurate estimate. So being within 1% of Sony's estimate is absolutely fine.

Jup, my bad, i saw it wrong, i am sorry

Btw, they adjustet the PS4 numbers down for NA LOL





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DonFerrari on 15 December 2015
Aragami said:
binary solo said:
Aragami said:
LOL still 32.3 Millions on Global Hardware, are they serious? They sold almost 1 million in a week, and they dont change the global number for ps4?? L

Yes they did. w/e 21 Nov PS4 LTD is now 29.89M that's only 311K under the Sony announcement, which if that's what VGC originally had for PS4's LTD when Sony announced everyone would have said "good job VGC." VGC doesn't need to have a number exactly the same as Sony's, after all, Sony's number is also an estimate, just a far more accurate estimate. So being within 1% of Sony's estimate is absolutely fine.

Jup, my bad, i saw it wrong, i am sorry

Btw, they adjustet the PS4 numbers down for NA LOL

Always count on VGC to make things sillier



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

COX on 15 December 2015

Why did they adjusted the PS4 numbers down ?

They just seem to undertrack the Ps4 on purpose. Everything seem to indicate that the gap between the Ps4 and Xone is bigger than 2k. 

I can't find any rationality behind their Ps4 numbers in NA (even globally after the Sony statement before BF)



DonFerrari on 15 December 2015
COX said:

Why did they adjusted the PS4 numbers down ?

They just seem to undertrack the Ps4 on purpose. Everything seem to indicate that the gap between the Ps4 and Xone is bigger than 2k. 

I can't find any rationality behind their Ps4 numbers in NA (even globally after the Sony statement before BF)

Make us happier on adjustments.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Spade on 15 December 2015
Versus_Evil said:
See, this is why I was perfectly fine when we had no numbers.

100% agreed. 





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binary solo on 15 December 2015
Aragami said:
binary solo said:
Aragami said:
LOL still 32.3 Millions on Global Hardware, are they serious? They sold almost 1 million in a week, and they dont change the global number for ps4?? L

Yes they did. w/e 21 Nov PS4 LTD is now 29.89M that's only 311K under the Sony announcement, which if that's what VGC originally had for PS4's LTD when Sony announced everyone would have said "good job VGC." VGC doesn't need to have a number exactly the same as Sony's, after all, Sony's number is also an estimate, just a far more accurate estimate. So being within 1% of Sony's estimate is absolutely fine.

Jup, my bad, i saw it wrong, i am sorry

Btw, they adjustet the PS4 numbers down for NA LOL

What the flock? They bumped PS4 down globally by 6K? 

Well I guess 6K is just background noise when it comes to the effect on LTD, but still, having a long history of consistnely underestimating PS4 sales one might think  ioi would think twice about dropping PS4 numbers down in the absence of any official (Sony or NPD) sales information. Still, if there is a week where PS4 would get bumped down a bit it would be the week before NDC and SWBF go on sale down to $299. It could be that ioi factored in that sale announcement as causing a slight softening of the PS4 market for that week.





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