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LuckyTrouble on 13 October 2015
spemanig said:
LuckyTrouble said:

If you choose to report news in some capacity, you are taking on the role of an amateur reporter and should make an effort to follow basic ethical guidelines.

As for the topic, I read through the thread, and as nice as it is that this exact practice is against the rules, it is also the common form of forum news reporting that shows that it isn't a carefully enforced rule. I'd also like to mention how funny it is that people are trying to defend a practice that has been against the rules for awhile. Good job, those who defended this problem. You are an inspiration to everybody *cough*.

As for my solution, I find it odd how it's being cited as difficult. Maybe it's because I actually am a news reporter, but typing up three or four sentences paraphrasing the main idea of an article in an objective fashion is absolute child's play. I can literally do that in a few minutes, whereas I may spend 15 minutes to half an hour prepping a full 300 to 500 word news piece for a site.

I also find it hilarious how people that may post 20 to 30 times a day, and will debate in threads for pages on end, say it takes too much time or effort to type four or five sentences summarizing a news piece. Good god guys. Seriously. There are only so many excuses you can use here, and so far all of them absolutely suck.


No, you're not. You're taking the roll of a discussion currator. No body is posting to report news, they are posting to discuss it. This isn't a news site - its a forum.

This is entirely semantics trying to find a way to subvert the rules. I have no idea what you're expecting to accomplish here, but I promise you, you won't accomplish it.



 

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LipeJJ on 13 October 2015
GribbleGrunger said:

Yeah, I came from another forum to this forum because they changed their policies on posting full articles. I think they have about 20 members now.

There's nothing wrong with it so stop trying to create a problem where there isn't one. You joined this year and post 4 times a day on average. Since your time here you have contribution in terms of threads has been 2 (this being your second). It really grinds my gears when people like you turn up and start complaining in a well established forum.


What did you expected? Look at his name. :P



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won

LuckyTrouble on 13 October 2015
LipeJJ said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Yeah, I came from another forum to this forum because they changed their policies on posting full articles. I think they have about 20 members now.

There's nothing wrong with it so stop trying to create a problem where there isn't one. You joined this year and post 4 times a day on average. Since your time here you have contribution in terms of threads has been 2 (this being your second). It really grinds my gears when people like you turn up and start complaining in a well established forum.


What did you expected? Look at his name. :P

But I'm lucky too! :p



 

pokoko on 13 October 2015
spemanig said:
LuckyTrouble said:

If you choose to report news in some capacity, you are taking on the role of an amateur reporter and should make an effort to follow basic ethical guidelines.

As for the topic, I read through the thread, and as nice as it is that this exact practice is against the rules, it is also the common form of forum news reporting that shows that it isn't a carefully enforced rule. I'd also like to mention how funny it is that people are trying to defend a practice that has been against the rules for awhile. Good job, those who defended this problem. You are an inspiration to everybody *cough*.

As for my solution, I find it odd how it's being cited as difficult. Maybe it's because I actually am a news reporter, but typing up three or four sentences paraphrasing the main idea of an article in an objective fashion is absolute child's play. I can literally do that in a few minutes, whereas I may spend 15 minutes to half an hour prepping a full 300 to 500 word news piece for a site.

I also find it hilarious how people that may post 20 to 30 times a day, and will debate in threads for pages on end, say it takes too much time or effort to type four or five sentences summarizing a news piece. Good god guys. Seriously. There are only so many excuses you can use here, and so far all of them absolutely suck.


No, you're not. You're taking the roll of a discussion currator. No body is posting to report news, they are posting to discuss it. This isn't a news site - its a forum.

Then discuss.  Post the link and an excerpt, then post your opinion.  Reposting the entire work of someone and calling it a day is fucking lame. 



LipeJJ on 13 October 2015
LuckyTrouble said:
LipeJJ said:


What did you expected? Look at his name. :P

But I'm lucky too! :p


Yeah, that's true. Maybe you'll bring some important trouble and that will be our luck? 

Anyway, being on topic, I kinda agree with you and that's why I never posted this kind of news (at least I think so :P). It would be cool if people just posted a link and not copied the entire article, this way we could discuss the topic and not cause an unlucky trouble to the source. :P



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won

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generic-user-1 on 13 October 2015
LuckyTrouble said:
 

If you choose to report news in some capacity, you are taking on the role of an amateur reporter and should make an effort to follow basic ethical guidelines.

WRONG! he is starting a disgussion on a piece of writting. that has othing to do with news reporting.

 

As for the topic, I read through the thread, and as nice as it is that this exact practice is against the rules, it is also the common form of forum news reporting that shows that it isn't a carefully enforced rule. I'd also like to mention how funny it is that people are trying to defend a practice that has been against the rules for awhile. Good job, those who defended this problem. You are an inspiration to everybody *cough*.

 

if nobody reports it, it will not be enforced, its not the best for the readers but its a minor problem compared with other things like spamming.   and rules arent perfect, and arent meant to be. they are ust there to prevent chaos, just like laws in the real world. you can argue against rules, thats NORMAL and the only way to change rules you dont consider beeing right.  and people dont defend a problem, they say its not a problem, thats something different. 

and ty, i know, im a fuckn shining light of inspiration.

 

 

 

As for my solution, I find it odd how it's being cited as difficult. Maybe it's because I actually am a news reporter, but typing up three or four sentences paraphrasing the main idea of an article in an objective fashion is absolute child's play. I can literally do that in a few minutes, whereas I may spend 15 minutes to half an hour prepping a full 300 to 500 word news piece for a site.

 

well you have to read a whole shit article to get the main idea of a article.  and at the current state of (gaming)journalism thats just something for people who like to tourte themself.

I also find it hilarious how people that may post 20 to 30 times a day, and will debate in threads for pages on end, say it takes too much time or effort to type four or five sentences summarizing a news piece. Good god guys. Seriously. There are only so many excuses you can use here, and so far all of them absolutely suck.

 

yeah you might find it hilarious, but for intelligent people repeating news isnt interresting, they want to talk about interpretation of the news, not about the news itself.why and how are more interresting than when where and what...

and stop this attitude. people dont use excuses, they have a different view on this topic. you arent the only one with the truth, there are many valid points to make on both sides.   or dont stop it an write for kotaku.

 

 

the kursive text is from me.



Frogger on 13 October 2015
LuckyTrouble said:

This is entirely semantics trying to find a way to subvert the rules. I have no idea what you're expecting to accomplish here, but I promise you, you won't accomplish it.


I'm not trying to accomplish anything. I don't make the threads you're discribing, so I have no stake in whether those rules are upheld. I will say that, as a forum goer, I don't care how much effort goes into not plagerizing a news story, because that's not why I or anyone else uses forums. I don't care if it rubs you the wrong way, that's the nature of a forum.

I don't care is the rule is enforced. I don't care if it isn't. But the fact that it isn't highlights an aspect of news threads you're unwilling to acknowledge. Absolutely no one posting threads cares about sharing news. They care about discussing it. Who cares if it's semantics? It's fact. There are dozens of well written on literally every peice of news that has ever been. No one is coming here to discover it, and I bet most people who comment on news threads saw the news in a dozen other news outlets first before coming here to talk about it.



Frogger on 13 October 2015
pokoko said:

Then discuss.  Post the link and an excerpt, then post your opinion.  Reposting the entire work of someone and calling it a day is fucking lame. 


The function of an OP is to spark discussion. Clearly the current way is working well enough to not nessecitate an opinion in the OP. On top of that, the thread would then change from being about the news to being about one person's opinion on the news. You call it lame. I call it effective.



pokoko on 13 October 2015
spemanig said:
pokoko said:

Then discuss.  Post the link and an excerpt, then post your opinion.  Reposting the entire work of someone and calling it a day is fucking lame. 


The function of an OP is to spark discussion. Clearly the current way is working well enough to not nessecitate an opinion in the OP. On top of that, the thread would then change from being about the news to being about one person's opinion on the news. You call it lame. I call it effective.





Lawlight on 13 October 2015

Copying a full article or not, the OP doesn't need to post any opinion if s/he doesn't want it. They 43 just relaying the news and if anyone else wants to discuss, let them.