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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Will the next CEO of Nintendo make powerful consoles to their fullest? Since Iwata has passed away?

Miyamotoo on 05 August 2015
catofellow said:
Nintendo is the most anti-technology technology company in the world. They have resisted all modern advancements in console gaming, from CD's, DVD's, Hard Drives, HD Graphics, and Online play. They still to this day downplay the importance of the very hardware they are trying to sell, to the point where there was absolutely no hype surrounding two of their last three consoles. There is no chance that the culture will change at Nintendo to the point where they develop an high end console.

Relly!?

What about analog sticks, vibration, touch screen, dual screen, motion controls, 3D screen, tablet controller...you can say that Nintendo late in some things, but you cant say "Nintendo is the most anti-technology technology company in the world", they were always pioneers in lot a things, even today, and you can bet they will have some interesting thing with next hardware too.



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Miyamotoo on 05 August 2015
Lawlight said:
Rafie said:
I hope the next CEO has NIntendo and it's legacy in it's best interest. Nintendo is innovating and FUN!!! They have to stick to what they know. That's all I want them to do.


Innovating is a bit of a stretch.

He should make a powerful console. The market has shown that they don't want a cheap, weak console.

Vita was expensive and strong, we all know sales of Vita. Wii was weak and cheap, we all know sales for Wii. 3DS is relative cheap and weak, we all know sales of 3DS.

Wii U wasnt cheap ($300/350 is not cheap). Power of Wii U is not reason why Wii U failed, Wii U had much bigger problems than power of hardware.



S.Peelman on 05 August 2015
Samus Aran said:
catofellow said:
 

Learn to read.  PS2 was the most powerful console at the time of it's release.  PS was the most powerful console at the time of its release.  Although both were not the most powerful console of their generation, they were the most powerful consoles at the time of their release.

Talk about moving the goalpost LOL.

Guess what, the Wii U was the most powerful console at the time of its release.

It's debatable anyway because when the PS and PS2 released, the SEGA Saturn and Dreamcast respectively existed, which could definitely make a fist against the two Sony consoles power-wise and even beat them in some areas. The Sony consoles only won (to put it simply), because Sony was smart in their marketing and they made the right decisions in the areas where it counted.



S.Peelman on 05 August 2015
Miyamotoo said:
catofellow said:
Nintendo is the most anti-technology technology company in the world. They have resisted all modern advancements in console gaming, from CD's, DVD's, Hard Drives, HD Graphics, and Online play. They still to this day downplay the importance of the very hardware they are trying to sell, to the point where there was absolutely no hype surrounding two of their last three consoles. There is no chance that the culture will change at Nintendo to the point where they develop an high end console.

Relly!?

What about analog sticks, vibration, touch screen, dual screen, motion controls, 3D screen, tablet controller...you can say that Nintendo late in some things, but you cant say "Nintendo is the most anti-technology technology company in the world", they were always pioneers in lot a things, even today, and you can bet they will have some interesting thing with next hardware too.

You forgot the biggest one; battery-backed saving. Without that innovation in technology we'd still be competing for high-scores.



Wyrdness on 05 August 2015
catofellow said:

Not true at all.  Each console that has won their respective generation, was by far the most powerful at the time of their release, except for Wii.  Just because a more powerful console happened to come out later, which is inevitible due to hardware advancements over time, doesn't mean specs are irrelevent.

Also, each console that has won (except for Wii) has gone out of their way to hype the hardware advancements (bits, polygons, 3d, plays dvd's, online play, etc.)  Nintendo's marketing approach is more along the lines of here's our console, graphics aren't important, people don't really want the internet, but our games are really really fun.  Nintendo fails to understand that they actually need to sell the hardware to people to get them to play the games in the first place.

SNES wasn't the most powerful at launch, Neogeo was the most powerful hardware at that point.



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Samus Aran on 05 August 2015
POE said:
Samus Aran said:
POE said:
Why are you all so concerned about power? I mean, in this day and age, it doesn´t add anything to a game, ANYTHING.

That's not true at all, the 3DS games could be so much better on a more powerful handheld. And two analogue sticks please.

I'm looking forward the most to Nintendo's handheld because the 3DS games look so bad.

How can, for example, fire emblem awakening be "so much better" with more power?

I can't fap to PS1 models.

And they could have dynamic battle maps with cool stuff happening while you're planning out your moves. Earthaquakes, avalanches, tsunamis, stormy weather, artillery fire, volcano eruption, snow/ice (which would have an effect on your troops), etc.

For example you could use a fire mage on an icy area to melt the surface below your enemy troops (and vice versa). Or use a water mage to soak the surface your enemies are standing on and then a thunder mage to unleash hell upon them.

Cooler attack animations.

More cutscenes instead of those boring dialogues with shitty graphics, fully voice acted, etc.



Lawlight on 05 August 2015
Miyamotoo said:
Lawlight said:
Rafie said:
I hope the next CEO has NIntendo and it's legacy in it's best interest. Nintendo is innovating and FUN!!! They have to stick to what they know. That's all I want them to do.


Innovating is a bit of a stretch.

He should make a powerful console. The market has shown that they don't want a cheap, weak console.

Vita was expensive and strong, we all know sales of Vita. Wii was weak and cheap, we all know sales for Wii. 3DS is relative cheap and weak, we all know sales of 3DS.

Wii U wasnt cheap ($300/350 is not cheap). Power of Wii U is not reason why Wii U failed, Wii U had much bigger problems than power of hardware.


The Vita is a handheld though. Handhelds are doomed.



Lawlight on 05 August 2015
Miyamotoo said:
catofellow said:
Nintendo is the most anti-technology technology company in the world. They have resisted all modern advancements in console gaming, from CD's, DVD's, Hard Drives, HD Graphics, and Online play. They still to this day downplay the importance of the very hardware they are trying to sell, to the point where there was absolutely no hype surrounding two of their last three consoles. There is no chance that the culture will change at Nintendo to the point where they develop an high end console.

Relly!?

What about analog sticks, vibration, touch screen, dual screen, motion controls, 3D screen, tablet controller...you can say that Nintendo late in some things, but you cant say "Nintendo is the most anti-technology technology company in the world", they were always pioneers in lot a things, even today, and you can bet they will have some interesting thing with next hardware too.

Analog sticks - copied from the PlayStation analog stick released before the N64 controller.

Dual Screen - innovation if you can call something only used by Nintendo an innovation.

Motion Control - copied the EyeToy from the PS2 era.

3D screen - same issue as the dual screen but PS3 was doing 3D before the 3DS.

Tablet controller - copied Vita's remote play feature.

Nice try though.



Samus Aran on 05 August 2015
Lawlight said:
Miyamotoo said:

Relly!?

What about analog sticks, vibration, touch screen, dual screen, motion controls, 3D screen, tablet controller...you can say that Nintendo late in some things, but you cant say "Nintendo is the most anti-technology technology company in the world", they were always pioneers in lot a things, even today, and you can bet they will have some interesting thing with next hardware too.

Analog sticks - copied from the PlayStation analog stick released before the N64 controller.

Dual Screen - innovation if you can call something only used by Nintendo an innovation.

Motion Control - copied the EyeToy from the PS2 era.

3D screen - same issue as the dual screen but PS3 was doing 3D before the 3DS.

Tablet controller - copied Vita's remote play feature.

Nice try though.

You truly have no idea how R & D works or what "copying" means it seems.

Oh and those dual screens made sure Nintendo obliterated Sony in the handheld market and now they have kicked them out of it.



Wyrdness on 05 August 2015
Lawlight said:

Analog sticks - copied from the PlayStation analog stick released before the N64 controller.

Dual Screen - innovation if you can call something only used by Nintendo an innovation.

Motion Control - copied the EyeToy from the PS2 era.

3D screen - same issue as the dual screen but PS3 was doing 3D before the 3DS.

Tablet controller - copied Vita's remote play feature.

Nice try though.


N64 Analogue was known about long before the PS1 even had analogues in fact even before the PS1's release. The Dualshock was released in 1997 a year after the N64's launch as well.

Motion Control was utilized by Nintendo in the 80s with the Power Glove.

Dual Screens are what changed the landscape of mobile devices as it push the use of touch screen technology.

I'll add the D-pad in place of 3d to his list and the whole portable market itself as created by the G&W and refined by the GB.