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LudicrousSpeed on 01 July 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

It is an opinion. You're taking it as some sort of literal accusation that the PS4 factually has zero games available, which is just a stupid thing for someone to say. What people are saying when they say "PS4 has no games" is that the platform has no games that appeal to them. And sorry to burst your bubble, but that's not a "lie", nor is it something you can prove to be wrong. People will like what they like, regardless of whether you agree or not.

These games can appeal to many people. To many others they might not. We saw it last gen with the Wii. We also saw it last gen with the 360. It's funny how on this site by the very same people upset about "PS4 has no games!" we saw a lot of stuff about how "360 has no games!" when a lot of its stuff was smaller downloadable titles and indies for portions of various years. I mean, the logic made sense back then, why does it suddenly have to be a "lie"?

Yeah, course I do fella LOL

Well then that's really all you needed to say, so I'll remove the poorly constructed paragraph below that.

Anyone who is willing to apply an ounce of common sense knows people are not implying you literally cannot buy a single game for a PS4.

When you hear people say it's raining cats and dogs, do you actually believe the streets are riddled with the bloody and broken corpses of dead cats and dogs pounding the ground from the sky above? Do you never talk games socially? What a bizarre stance to take.

Also, it has nothing to do with "Xbox gamers". As hard as it might be for you to believe, there are still many people who have not purchased either of the consoles because they don't think there is anything in the libraries.



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GribbleGrunger on 01 July 2015
LudicrousSpeed said:

Well then that's really all you needed to say, so I'll remove the poorly constructed paragraph below that.

Anyone who is willing to apply an ounce of common sense knows people are not implying you literally cannot buy a single game for a PS4.

When you hear people say it's raining cats and dogs, do you actually believe the streets are riddled with the bloody and broken corpses of dead cats and dogs pounding the ground from the sky above? Do you never talk games socially? What a bizarre stance to take.

Also, it has nothing to do with "Xbox gamers". As hard as it might be for you to believe, there are still many people who have not purchased either of the consoles because they don't think there is anything in the libraries.

As long as you realise the narrative was a lie, and has been proven to be a lie, then that's fine. If you're happy with less of everything because what is amongst that smaller number suits you more, then that's fine too. I prefer a bigger more diverse choice all year round, but that in no way should ever bother you because my bigger options clearly include less of what you like. Of course the bigger and more diverse choice is why more people prefer the PS4. It's only logical, right?  Which brings us full circle back to the original question and statement: 'Why is the PS4 still outselling the XB1? It has no games.'



 

The PS5 Exists. 


d21lewis on 01 July 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Well then that's really all you needed to say, so I'll remove the poorly constructed paragraph below that.

Anyone who is willing to apply an ounce of common sense knows people are not implying you literally cannot buy a single game for a PS4.

When you hear people say it's raining cats and dogs, do you actually believe the streets are riddled with the bloody and broken corpses of dead cats and dogs pounding the ground from the sky above? Do you never talk games socially? What a bizarre stance to take.

Also, it has nothing to do with "Xbox gamers". As hard as it might be for you to believe, there are still many people who have not purchased either of the consoles because they don't think there is anything in the libraries.

As long as you realise the narrative was a lie, and has been proven to be a lie, then that's fine. If you're happy with less of everything because what is amongst that smaller number suits you more, then that's fine too. I prefer a bigger more diverse choice all year round, but that in no way should ever bother you because my bigger options clearly include less of what you like. Of course the bigger and more diverse choice is why more people prefer the PS4. It's only logical, right? 

Hey, Gribble!  I totally agree with everything you said in that last post!  I just have a favor to ask of you.  If it's not too much trouble, can you post your PSN ID?  Im curious to see what a PlayStation guy such as yourself chooses to play when given a myriad of options!



GribbleGrunger on 01 July 2015
d21lewis said:

Hey, Gribble!  I totally agree with everything you said in that last post!  I just have a favor to ask of you.  If it's not too much trouble, can you post your PSN ID?  Im curious to see what a PlayStation guy such as yourself chooses to play when given a myriad of options!

My choice is of no importance because it's my choice. Whether I've played 1 game or 100 games changes nothing. The fact remains that the narrative was false and as we discovered along the long and arduous journey of proviing it wrong, it is in fact the XB1 that has less games, which of course would never have been discovered or been of any relevence if not for the original lie. You reap what you sow. This is a journey started by XB1 fans and finished by PS4 fans. From the initial argument to the more selective arguments, the lie was exposed.



 

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theprof00 on 01 July 2015
starcraft said:
You need to go to better parties...

exactly what I was thinking



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Wright on 01 July 2015
d21lewis said:

Hey, Gribble!  I totally agree with everything you said in that last post!  I just have a favor to ask of you.  If it's not too much trouble, can you post your PSN ID?  Im curious to see what a PlayStation guy such as yourself chooses to play when given a myriad of options!


He plays Bloodborne, a lot. What else would you need to know?!



Aerys on 01 July 2015

What people dont understand is that nowadays, a digital game can be as ambitious as a AAA retail game from last gen

So complaining about those who care more about digital games this generation is stupid. You cant compare a small 2D game like Splosion Man to a much bigger production with a budget of several millions like Rime or Wild,etc.

Last generations, very few digital games could have been considered as AAA, because the budget for digital games was very small, most were closer to A games, though some were excellent AA games like Shadow Complex, Mark Of The Ninja, and this wonderful 2D animated game Dust, but that's all the most ambitious, and still they are less ambitious that the average digital game you'll see this generation

So it's a nonsens to complain about this and compare the importance of digital games between these generations since it became much bigger, and we now allow much bigger budgets for these games.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Jimbo1337 on 01 July 2015
LudicrousSpeed said:

It is an opinion. You're taking it as some sort of literal accusation that the PS4 factually has zero games available, which is just a stupid thing for someone to say. What people are saying when they say "PS4 has no games" is that the platform has no games that appeal to them. And sorry to burst your bubble, but that's not a "lie", nor is it something you can prove to be wrong. People will like what they like, regardless of whether you agree or not.

These games can appeal to many people. To many others they might not. We saw it last gen with the Wii. We also saw it last gen with the 360. It's funny how on this site by the very same people upset about "PS4 has no games!" we saw a lot of stuff about how "360 has no games!" when a lot of its stuff was smaller downloadable titles and indies for portions of various years. I mean, the logic made sense back then, why does it suddenly have to be a "lie"?

"PS4 has no games" is passed off as a statement of fact and there are "no games that appeal to [me]" is an opinion.  To say they mean the same thing is downright stupidity and you know it.  

I find it funny that you say that this site said stuff like "360 has no games!" when the internet is littered with "PS3 has no fricken games" without a trace of "XB360 has no games".  Not to mention there is a Playstation 3 song about it having "No fricken games" that doesn't convey the message: "no games that appeal to [me]" even in the slightest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgrkN45RDoo

If that isn't clear enough for you, then simply look at the comics from this source:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ps3-has-no-games

Look at the example of the comic with the blank bookshelf.  "You could play some of my PS3 games if you get bored".  *There are no games on the shelf* "Umm...okay, thanks".  Were there games on the shelf where the guy was saying: "Oh those games don't appeal to me"?  The answer is no by the way.



Jazz2K on 01 July 2015
Jimbo1337 said:
Azzanation said:

I am a PC gamer and i have 4000+ games to buy on Steam compared to my XB1 and PS4 which has nothing compared, i dont start writing articles claiming PC is better because i have a huge amount of games to choose from. Sorry my opinion is i would play those Blockbusters over mediocre to average games on Steam, Live or PSN because thats why i brought a console, to play AAA franchises. Sure its ok to have varity but varity isnt always better as a Blockbuster game is something gamers want to play, not just choose to play them because they have no other choice. I own 800+ games on my Steam account (Look me up Azzanation) and i can tell you i only play the AAAs even though my library of games offers me more doesnt mean i use them. Halo 5 counters nearly half my Steam library of games i own because thats a big AAA that i would spend 100+ hours on. Not OiiOii2 which i would spend 5mins on.

Maybe im old school but 1 good game is better then 5 average games. I owned both N64 and PS1 and my PS1 never got used because the N64 library was gold, i have over 20+ great AAA games iv spent 1000s of hours on compared to my PS1 where i mainly brought 3rd party titles like FF7 and the PS1 had tons more games to choose from. Qauntity isnt always the anwser to my gaming experinces. I just want good experinces.

@bold:  No, you feel like you are entitled to say what every gamer wants based off of your own opinion.  News flash!  Not everyone wants to play Halo 5, Gears 4, and Forza 6.  You may see these as blockbuster titles, while others see them as boring and repetitive franchises.  When I look at a game, I always ask the same question:  What gaming experience does this game provide that other iterations have not done in the past?  What new experience is Halo 5 bringing to shooters that no other shooter has done before?  

The moment that any gamer says something bad about Halo is the moment they get blasted.  God forbid that I have never bought and really played any of the Halo games.  God forbid that I sit here and say that I have no interest in playing those titles.  You may spend 100+ hours on Halo 5, while I would spend a couple of hours playing it and move on.  This is what you sound like:  Oh the PS4 has tons of JRPGS where I can play 1000 hours on a single game while I will only play 100 hours on Halo 5.  I would rather buy one quality game (JRPG) than play 10 low quality games like a Halo 5.

The whole point in saying that was to not put down Halo.  I had to do that because apparently that is the only way to talk to you.  I try to speak to you with neutrality and with an open mind; however, you come back with negativity and downplaying.  

Answer this one question for me:  If you have fun with a game, would you consider that to be a quality game?

You see what I did there?  I stripped away the name of the game and the budget of the game.  But deep down, you don't want to admit that, yes, if I have fun with a game, then it is a quality game.  Keep thinking that the PS4 is selling based off of hype.  I will sit here and tell you that the PS4 is selling because they have a diverse lineup of quality games that appeal to a vast array of gamers who have varying tastes.  

@underline:  Huh?  "Varity" provides diversity.  So why would you be forced to play a game because you have no other choice?  "Varity" provides tons of choices....

Btw, it is variety, not varity. Quantity, not qauntity. Bought, not brought.  Those are not typos, as you have made the same mistakes despite the fact that I pointed it out in previous posts -_-


Your whole comment should be applied to anyone that loves too much it's console of choice. Not everyone thinks Shenmue, FF7, Uncharted, God of War or GT are the best gaming has to offer. The same can be said about Mario, Zelda or Metroid. Azznation's point is valid and I side with him. Just because you get a ton of games doesn't mean the library is better.

As for saying fun game = quality game is kind of broken really. Just because you have fun in a game doesn't make it of great quality. It just means that you have fun with it no matter how mediocre it can be. This is all about preferences. And variety doesn't mean you'll have the games you like. There are a lot of fighting games out there but none of them are like Street Fighter. If what you like is SF, are you going to go for "variety" and leave SF behind just for the sake of variety?

People go where the games they like are not where there's variety and eventualy find something to like.



Veknoid_Outcast on 01 July 2015

2015: PS4: 87 Games, XboxOne: 22 Games

List wars threads: 

Lot of baiting, trolling, and recriminatory posts in this thread. And very few productive ones. Locking now.