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globalisateur said:
Try to play the game on a harder difficulty mode.


This guy has got it. Most people play it on normal. You need to play it on a harder difficulty to get the best experience.

As for my opinion, The Last of Us is one of the greatest games I've played in terms of entertainment value. I was 100% immersed in the experience. I was super hyped for the game before it came out, but it still managed to shatter my expectations. The way Naughty Dog presents and crafts games is just perfect. They're held in high regard for good reason.



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It's the sort of game I'd rather watch a movie version of on Youtube than play myself. I didn't like the shooting and while the melee combat was great for a half hour it got old real fast. I'd rather just watch the cutscenes.



Ka-pi96 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Playing on harder modes limits your abilities and resources, but it doesn't do jack shit to the AI except make them hit you harder.

Also, people talking about the game being two years old forget it's now packed in with every PS4 and that console sells more than either of the other two, and apparently sells to a lot of people who did not own a PS3 last gen. So it will continue to be a new experience for many people.

edit, the DLC Grounded difficulty might have had some actual AI changes, maybe not. I wouldn't know, I was long done with the game by the time it came out. But I played half on Normal, found it boring so beat it on Hard, then got about halfway through again on Survivor or whatever the last difficulty was and was bored again and noticed no AI changes at all except how hard they hit.

It's not though. Just looked at Amazon and not a single one of their PS4 bundles include TLOU.

You've got; Black (No games), White (No games), Batman, Batman LTD Edition, Destiny, GTA V & Lego Batman + Lego Movie. It's not possible to get a new TLOU bundle, the only ones available are from resellers and at massively inflated prices.

Well I am talking retail, that's literally all I see around here are PS4's with LoU. And I am looking on Amazon right now and they have the LoU bundle for less than retail, though it's about to sell out.

Target has it in stock online, plus a free Ass Creed Unity.
Walmart has it in stock online, plus a free extra controller
Best Buy also has it online.

I was under the assumption that this is now their base model, I see tons of them. Either way, my point was they have released a newer version of the game. That's going to lead to more people talking about it.



darkshadow23 said:
Is the AI really that bad though? I never had any problems with it. No game is gonna have perfect AI... Tell me a game and I'll show you the AI fucking up in it.


I have beaten the game more than 5 times and the only AI that's really bad is elie AI.  IMO enemy AI are smarter than most games nowadays.  They are constantly moving and when you play in higher difficulty which you have listen mode disabled, it become more apparent how smart they are.  It keeps you guessing where they are.



JazzB1987 said:
Kane1389 said:

Last time i checked,  both PS3 and PS4 versions have a same metacritic score.

Also, a game doesnt have to be perfect to get a perfect score, otherwise why bother having a score system for anything anyways?


? Why do you get 100% in school exams?
A perfect score can only be achieved if something is perfect. (objectively not subjectively)


Exactly, and a video game isnt bound by any objective criteria like a school exam is, so you proved my own point here.



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For that gen, it was a gem. Story, graphics, and a cool take on zombies to boot.

Still dont like the ending......he screws over humanity over some misplaced sense of fatherhood.



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Kane1389 said:
JazzB1987 said:


? Why do you get 100% in school exams?
A perfect score can only be achieved if something is perfect. (objectively not subjectively)


Exactly, and a video game isnt bound by any objective criteria like a school exam is, so you proved my own point here.

It is

It is not bound to a check list like school exams tho.
Was "X" answered and is it correct? if yes 10 points  if not 0 points. if half correct 5 points.
I agree that this is not how games and their reviews work

BUT
What they do is  analyze what the product is supposed to do/offer and then compare to what was delivered. Thats completely objective.

If a racing game is supposed to have 30FPS and then the game drops to 22 and has issues with controls (which is obviously a flaw) it cannot be perfect. Its obvious that the game tried to be a 30FPS game if 80% of the time the framerate is 30FPS. Dontpunish the game for not being 60FPS because it never tried to be that but you can punish it for failing at being a 30FPS game.

It would be more logical to not even try to implement something at all than doing it BAD. So a Mario Kart 8 that never even tried to implement the battle mode at all would theoretically deserve a better score than the Mario Kart 8 we got with a battle mode that is half-assed and nonsensical because the courses are way to large for what they are supposed to be. Devs might play it save by offering less complicated things then and less content because they might fear they could get worse score for offering more "not enough polished" stuff. BUT that can be solved with a "value score" (see below).

If a game tries something it cannot accomplish or if the execution is bad then it failed at being a perfect product. You base the 10/10 on what it could have been and reduce the score until you reach the product you got in the end. That is the only plausible and fair way to judge and rate a product. (on its own tho!) Everything else is arbitrary. 

The problem is if we only have the individual score that does not compare the thing to another product how does one know if a product is better than another one? Thats why we need several scores not only 1.

The "individual" score I just described above.
A value score that analyzes the offered content:price ratio (value).

And one that takes both into account and gives us a final score. There is still a problem here tho.

It would be better to have final scores for multiplayer and singleplayer (because not everyone cares about MP and not everyone about SP) having only a final score distorts the review. So we need a SP and MP score that review multiplayer content and singleplayer content independently.

(every type of score mentioned here should still be visible in the final review tho. Like today we have VISUALS, SOUNDS, STORY, REPLAY VALUE)



sales2099 said:
For that gen, it was a gem. Story, graphics, and a cool take on zombies to boot.

Still dont like the ending......he screws over humanity over some misplaced sense of fatherhood.

I disagree that he screwed over humanity. There's no way of knowing if they could even produce a cure from Ellie; they had zero success so far, and their lab setup looked pretty shabby. And even if they could have prduced a cure, there's no guarantee they would have used/shared it, and not used it for political gain etc. I have little reason to believe her death would have served any purpose, so by living she actually gave humanity a better chance of survival, being one of the few decent people left alive.



I'm curious then to what last generation game you consider to be a master-piece or "game of the generation"?



Desertghost said:

I'm curious then to what last generation game you consider to be a master-piece or "game of the generation"?

I already mentioned them, but it's a tie between Dark Souls and Bioshock Infinite.



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