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mai on 13 January 2015

He also was behind multiculturalism NGO in Netherlands, and we know how that concept has worked out. Is he even a religious person or just a migrant from the country, where's majority are Muslims? For that reason I'm probably considered a Muslim somewhere in CIA world factbook too, even though never sent a single prayer to Allah (or for that matter to any other god). Shame.

But all in all I "like" how Muslim vs. non-Musilm tensions are going on in Europe. Remember that moment and comprae to how the situation will develop in, say, year's time. Methinks that's not a thing that will disappear from TV screens soon, there're reasons to bring that topic to public's attention more often than usual.



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HollyGamer on 13 January 2015
Troll_Whisperer said:
HollyGamer said:
I don't mind living with non Muslim people, and in Islam they teach their people to live in tolerant with different believe, but i cannot live with people who ask Muslim people doing forbidden thing (like force muslim people to eat pork, drinking alcohol, or let their muslim children influenced by free sex and same gender marriage or even worse forbid the woman wearing hijab (exception for burka )).

No one forces these things of Muslim people in Western countries. Exception being wearing a hijab in public schools in France. But that's for all religious symbols and they do (did?) the same in Turkey.

If you think they shouldn't have a "soft influence" by the surrounding culture, then they shouldn't be in that culture to begin with. That's like me going to Iran and expecting to have booze readily available because I don't need soft influence.

Anyone can profess whatever religion they like. But killing people is not justifiable and this mayor is 100% correct.

One of my best friends is Afghan/British. He's disgusted by these actions and hates the Taliban. He's a wonderful human being and feels grateful to have lived his life in the UK. We have no problems with people like that (bar some stupid assholes). Every time he comes over I'm careful to serve him halal food. He makes no mention of his religion and has zero negativity towards me and my friends, who are mostly atheist.

This is all good. Terrorists can fuck off.

I believe all Muslim hate terorisme, we can agree with that, and all Muslim is tolerant to people who have different way of live , the same with your friend which is a good guy. The same thing with "killing" but i guess excpetion with "dead penalty " which is part of syariah law in Islamic country, i guess this also happen in modern country.



S.Peelman on 13 January 2015

I'm from Rotterdam. We can be proud of our mayor, Aboutaleb. Good man!



mai on 13 January 2015
Gehirnkrampf said:
what a luck he is a muslim, because if not he now would be racist (despite the fact racism has nothing to do with religion, but who cares about that).

True. After all you need to show a "nation unite against islamist terrorism" attitude and give some faith into diversity, tolerance, multiculturalism and other bankrupt ideas. It makes other people feel more secure, and that's far more reassuring if said by the representative of the very same Islam, who's "on our side".



HollyGamer on 13 January 2015
mai said:

He also was behind multiculturalism NGO in Netherlands, and we know how that concept has worked out. Is he even a religious person or just a migrant from the country, where's majority are Muslims? For that reason I'm probably considered a Muslim somewhere in CIA world factbook too, even though never sent a single prayer to Allah (or for that matter to any other god). Shame.

But all in all I "like" how Muslim vs. non-Musilm tensions are going on in Europe. Remember that moment and comprae to how the situation will develop in, say, year's time. Methinks that's not a thing that will disappear from TV screens soon, there're reasons to bring that topic to public's attention more often than usual.

That's how the culture work, each new culture that come will have some cultural clash in the sociecty.



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mai on 13 January 2015
HollyGamer said:
mai said:

He also was behind multiculturalism NGO in Netherlands, and we know how that concept has worked out. Is he even a religious person or just a migrant from the country, where's majority are Muslims? For that reason I'm probably considered a Muslim somewhere in CIA world factbook too, even though never sent a single prayer to Allah (or for that matter to any other god). Shame.

But all in all I "like" how Muslim vs. non-Musilm tensions are going on in Europe. Remember that moment and comprae to how the situation will develop in, say, year's time. Methinks that's not a thing that will disappear from TV screens soon, there're reasons to bring that topic to public's attention more often than usual.

That's how the culture work, each new culture that come will have some cultural clash in the sociecty.

Smth is telling me Europe will solve that problem in old-fashined way :D

An anecdote I heard a while ago. Somewhere in Germany... couple of Turks in a public transport discussing how they'll overrun that damn Germany in numbers. An old German lady is passing by and throws a remark  at them: "I have heard the same from Jews many years ago".



cheshirescat on 13 January 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
HollyGamer said:
I don't mind living with non Muslim people, and in Islam they teach their people to live in tolerant with different believe, but i cannot live with people who ask Muslim people doing forbidden thing (like force muslim people to eat pork, drinking alcohol, or let their muslim children influenced by free sex and same gender marriage or even worse forbid the woman wearing hijab (exception for burka )).

I don't think I've ever seen anyone trying to force Muslims to do those things.


I've done it before, well, I never forced them, but I have in the past used pork byproducts when cooking meals for a some people that are vegan, jewish and muslim.  They'll never know (except for the vegan cunt, I was up front with her about it after we broke up, and really, who hasn't wanted to spike a vegan's food with a little bacon fat?), unless their god does exist and is still crazy strict about those outmoded dietary laws, but I figure I can apologize to them in hell.  I mean, if pork is good enough for the Buddha's last meal then it's good enough for these people.



HollyGamer on 13 January 2015
mai said:
HollyGamer said:
mai said:

He also was behind multiculturalism NGO in Netherlands, and we know how that concept has worked out. Is he even a religious person or just a migrant from the country, where's majority are Muslims? For that reason I'm probably considered a Muslim somewhere in CIA world factbook too, even though never sent a single prayer to Allah (or for that matter to any other god). Shame.

But all in all I "like" how Muslim vs. non-Musilm tensions are going on in Europe. Remember that moment and comprae to how the situation will develop in, say, year's time. Methinks that's not a thing that will disappear from TV screens soon, there're reasons to bring that topic to public's attention more often than usual.

That's how the culture work, each new culture that come will have some cultural clash in the sociecty.

Smth tellimg Europe will solve that problem in old-fashined way :D

An anecdote I heard a while ago. Somewhere in Germany... couple of Turks in a public transport discussing how they'll overrun that damn Germany in numbers. An old German lady is passing by and throws a remark  at them: "I have heard the same from Jews many years ago".

Jew had the worse treatment under the Vatican, but it was gone when chaliphate rule over spain and Jarusalem. So if Muslim culture dominate it will not bring any harm to other culture.



Lafiel on 13 January 2015
HollyGamer said:

Jew had the worse treatment under the Vatican, but it was gone when chaliphate rule over spain and Jarusalem. So if Muslim culture dominate it will not bring any harm to other culture.

the caliphates from back then were progressive, secular, multicultural and respected religious freedom - the total opposite of the so called "caliphates" radicals want to install these days



badgenome on 13 January 2015
HollyGamer said:

Jew had the worse treatment under the Vatican, but it was gone when chaliphate rule over spain and Jarusalem. So if Muslim culture dominate it will not bring any harm to other culture.

Ever hear of the Almohads?