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bouzane said:

Can you tell me why does America kill herself fighting Saudi Arabia's wars? Why topple the secular regimes in Syria, Libya, Iraq and countless other Arab nations in order for your Islamofascist enemies to run wild? It certainly isn't in the interests of your nation. America's entire foreign policy exists in order to fellate Saudi Arabia. Which nation has wasted billions developing and supporting the other? Which nation protects the interests of the other? Which nation fights wars on behalf of the other? I hate to break it to you but America is Saudi Arabia's vassal and little more. That's why instead of improving the lives of her citizens or actually protecting democracy, liberty and secularism America paves the way for a Saudi dominated Islamofascist Middle East.

Edit: The map you posted proves my point in  a hil,arious fashion. The American military largely exists to protect its master.


Syria and Libya's governments were both backed by the Russians.
They are both enemies of Israel 
Syria was using chemical weapons on its people
Iraq was gassing its citizens
Iraq is bordering Iran 
Halliburton profitted billions off of the war in Iraq 

I don't see why Saudi is even a consideration in any of these matters. 



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the_real_dsister44 said:
bouzane said:

Can you tell me why does America kill herself fighting Saudi Arabia's wars? Why topple the secular regimes in Syria, Libya, Iraq and countless other Arab nations in order for your Islamofascist enemies to run wild? It certainly isn't in the interests of your nation. America's entire foreign policy exists in order to fellate Saudi Arabia. Which nation has wasted billions developing and supporting the other? Which nation protects the interests of the other? Which nation fights wars on behalf of the other? I hate to break it to you but America is Saudi Arabia's vassal and little more. That's why instead of improving the lives of her citizens or actually protecting democracy, liberty and secularism America paves the way for a Saudi dominated Islamofascist Middle East.

Edit: The map you posted proves my point in  a hil,arious fashion. The American military largely exists to protect its master.


Syria and Libya's governments were both backed by the Russians.
They are both enemies of Israel 
Syria was using chemical weapons on its people
Iraq was gassing its citizens
Iraq is bordering Iran 
Halliburton profitted billions off of the war in Iraq 

I don't see why Saudi is even a consideration in any of these matters. 


The secular, communist regimes in these nations opposed Saudi Arabia and her Islamofascism allies, it is really that simple. They were indeed enemies of Isreal, another nation that America is on her knees serving in much the same fashion.

This is a little nitpicky but Saddam gassed (as in past tense, not ongoing) Kurdish rebels and their families, that's a bit removed from your insinuation that he was actively gassing loyal citizens. Syria gassed rebels and the Muslim terrorists sponsored by America (like the ones in Afghanistan).

Syria and Iraq committed atrocities against their people but so do many of America's allies. The Years of Lead in Italy didn't stop America from helping to preserve fascism in that nation. Franco's attrocities didn't stop America from protecting them either. Need I mention the horrifyingly conservative Middle Eastern regimes America is allied with? How about the Muslim terrorists your nation continues to sponsor? Sorry but using chemical weapons on civilians is a non factor in America's foreign policy decisions. Great empires concern themselves not with the wellbeing of individuals but with actions that continue to increase their prosperity and influence and this is certainly not being accomplished (or even attempted).

How is the Iraq-Iran border relevant to America and how does it serve American interests to create tensions with Iran and her allies?

America loses hundreds of billions of dollars with each invasion while gaining very little in return. Additionally, these actions serve to destabilize and radicalize the region. Does this serve America's interests? No. Then who does it serve? Saudi Arabia.

Again, this approach to foreign policy is not meant to serve American interests and I don't understand how it can be viewed this way. I always hear the old Cold War excuses that they were allies with Russia but that does not justify blowing an entire nation's prosperity on waging wars in a far removed region that should honestly be ignored by the powers that be.

TL/DR

America's actions are clearly being driven by foreign interests. Any nation in America's position would clearly benefit from avoiding further conflict in the Middle East as opposed to wasting trillions of dollars destabilizing the region, sponsoring terrorists and allowing Saudi Arabia to spread radical Sunni Islam. America does all of the work and Saudi Arabia continues her meteoric rise, it is painfully clear who's in charge.