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CosmicSex on 15 December 2014
Barkley said:
Xbox taking the US is all that matters. Rest of the world is irrelevant.

MURICA!!!!!!

 

Not even taking America. Only taking November in America is all that matters and only when the Xbox One does it does it matter regardless of the ultimate fact that it's trying just break even. Nor does it matter that splitting the US market still leaves the PS4 with like 80% of the rest of the market which spends more money, buys more games and consoles than America.  

 

The only thing that matters is that the majority of Xbox One sales come from the US.  Therefore no matter how badly the PS4 stomps it, you focus should be only on America where it finally won a month.



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arcane_chaos on 15 December 2014
fory77 said:
Barkley said:
Xbox taking the US is all that matters. Rest of the world is irrelevant.

MURICA!!!!!!

 


LOL!!! YESSSS!!!!



cfin2987@gmail.com on 15 December 2014
Davman said:

U.S..A. Population 319,259,000 - 4.43% of World Population

U.S.A. GDP (nomimal) 16,768 Trillion of US$ - 22,5% of World GDP


EU Population 500,000,000 - 7.3% of World Population

EU GDP (Nominal) 17,372 Trillion of US$ - 23% of World GDP

 

Also, the EU does not encompass all of Europe or the European Market and leaves out some major players.



cfin2987@gmail.com on 15 December 2014
Barkley said:
Xbox taking the US is all that matters. Rest of the world is irrelevant.

MURICA!!!!!!


Aren't people being sarcastic when they say "MUrica". It was started as a way to mock people from the US in a hickish, illiterate way. I'm just curious. Or do people actually spell the continent incorrectly with pride?



alabtrosMyster on 15 December 2014
SpartenOmega117 said:

Often it seems like people get offended when the North American region is speicifically targeted by companies, users on this board, etc. as a reason for success. Recently, Microsoft lowered the price of the Xbox One in the U.S. to gain significant marketshare in the territory and it looks like they succeeded according to the latest NPD results. Of course people jump to the argument that US does not equal World as a way to downplay Microsoft's success.

The fact of the matter is that the United States, and NA in general, is the most important territory to have. The Xbox One, and to a slightly lesser extent the PS4, is built around services the consoles offer- netflix, xbox live, PS+, nfl network, etc. They really are media service boxes up to this point. And of course the big 3 all want to sell as much software as they can on their console. The United States has the largest market for the services these consoles have to offer. Americans love to spend money on games and these services. Internet is readily available so they are able to subscribe to services like Xbox live and PS+. Consoles by themselves don't actually make money. I doubt Sony is making much on the PS4 and Microsoft is losing money at this point on the console itself. But Microsoft knows it's important to have the market that will end up spending the most money on games and its online service. That's why they don't care if they end up selling less worldwide.

If the right market is captured, having 10 million consoles sold can be worth more than having 15 million consoles sold. Those 10 million users may end up spending more money on the said console than those 15 million users. We saw this with the Wii. It sold a massive amount but in the end market it captured did not end up spending money on it. Many services that these consoles offer are not even available outside of the United States. There is nothing wrong with focusing on a single region and making sure it absolutely succeeds in that region, especially when that region is the most spending-happy.

Oh man, you are not saying what you are trying to say.

I guess if you lower the bar enough you can call everyone a winner...



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LudicrousSpeed on 15 December 2014

It is the most important market.

But it's not the only market that matters.



Insidb on 15 December 2014
captain carot said:

And Europes GDP is afaik slightly higher, so which region is more important?
That actually depends on how much you sell where.

Edit:

@Insidb:
How much europeans do you think know more of Murica than what you see in Movies and Serials?

Actually worked on a NATO Airbase when we still had our military duty, though just for eight month. There where pretty much and pretty different US- soldiers as well as civillians. And most of em wheren't really like that stuff you see in TV.

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but Europeans tend to be better-informed of us than we of them. Working heavily in their favor is the ability to travel easily from nation to nation, whereas the US is basically made up of state nations. I have noticed that Europeans view us as a peculiar duality: the progressive, liberal, American Dream, NYC America vs. the dirty south, warmongering, backwards, bible-thumping Muricuh. Regardless, almost all Eurpoeans I know or work with are very present to what goes on in the US, while many of my compatriots back home know far little beyond the Eiffel Tower and the Colosseum.



dyremose on 15 December 2014

We have internet in europe you know... We also have money in europe. This is really offending. You make it seem like the US is the only place where consumers matter. Nevermind the fact that we pay way more for games and hardware than you guys.



cfin2987@gmail.com on 15 December 2014
Insidb said:
captain carot said:

And Europes GDP is afaik slightly higher, so which region is more important?
That actually depends on how much you sell where.

Edit:

@Insidb:
How much europeans do you think know more of Murica than what you see in Movies and Serials?

Actually worked on a NATO Airbase when we still had our military duty, though just for eight month. There where pretty much and pretty different US- soldiers as well as civillians. And most of em wheren't really like that stuff you see in TV.

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but Europeans tend to be better-informed of us than we of them. Working heavily in their favor is the ability to travel easily from nation to nation, whereas the US is basically made up of state nations. I have noticed that Europeans view us as a peculiar duality: the progressive, liberal, American Dream, NYC America vs. the dirty south, warmongering, backwards, bible-thumping Muricuh. Regardless, almost all Eurpoeans I know or work with are very present to what goes on in the US, while many of my compatriots back home know far little beyond the Eiffel Tower and the Colosseum.

I agree with Insidb. Even the whole "Europeans" categorization shows a lack of information. Dozens of languages and cultures. In some eastern European countries the minimum wage might be as little as 2 euros per hour where as in the likes of Ireland it is Euro8.65 which currentlu equates to $10.75.

Then there is the fact that most "europeans" know about all of your landmarks and have a great awareness of the realistic standard of living in the US from state to state. I am yet to meet one American who actually knows how it is in Ireland without having visited there. They arrive expecting horses and karts. I'll never forget once a lady dropped the F bomb sitting beside me, on landing in Dublin. The same lady had earlier told her kids that "There won't be no pizie sticks or candies here so you kids shoulda stocked up while you was at Walmart". So no, US citizens, in general, are not as aware of cultures across the European continent, as we are of their culture and standard of living.



HollyGamer on 15 December 2014

Actually political speaking it's true

Economically ........ No!!! after the world economy crisis US is not that powerful anymore is far from what they use to be, people in my country prefer to buy gold then US dollar Lol