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tastyshovelware said:
really not a big deal at all.

it will be a great game just like mgs1, mgs2, mgs3. the only people who won't like it are people who don't like the series. so what if it ends up on two disks? just walk over to your ps3 and swop it out.

it's silly so many comparisons and such are being made. there are certain games that are just going to please their audience. games that have 0.01% chance of being let downs.

wii has brawl, 360 has ninja gaiden 2, ps3 has mgs3. everyone smiles. yay.

MGS4, not MGS3.



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Lone_Canis_Lupus said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Lone_Canis_Lupus said:
4D Gamer III said:
When the day comes that MGS4, FFXIII, GT5 and GOW3 have come and gone on the PS3, I will be happy, because then and finally then the PS3 fanboys will be forced to acknowledge the PS3's performance in Hardware and Software sales for what they are instead of ignoring the present in favor of turning their gaze towards the promise of the future. Though who am I kidding? Even when things were at their worst for the PS3, the Sony fanboys were talking about how things would turn around when the PS4 came out. There will be no end to the excuses, no end to the promises.

The 360 has taken its predicessor's measley stake in the market and expanded it with an even more fantastic online community and the best game library of this generation with games, that despite those being put on the Ps3 as well, typically look better on it.

The Wii has taken a company on an 18 year downward spiral and turned things around with what looks to be their most successful console ever along side their most successful handheld ever. While things are hard going for third party support, a generation of rebuilding is more than understandable given Nintendo's lost investments of the past.

The PS3 on the other hand took the legacy of the two best selling consoles in history (PS & PS2) and squandered it with its extravagance as an expensive luxury item with sloppy hardware architecture, even more sloppy copy-cat motion controls, a mediocre successor to the mediocre Eye Toy and a Johny-Come-Lately Online Community which is sure to please those desperate enough to feel the PS3 needs it. In addition to losing exclusivity to franchises like Devil May Cry, Grand Theft Auto and Monster Hunter, the PS3 now is taking up the trend of forcing you to download large chunks of data onto the harddrive simply just to play the game, don't delete them to make more space or else your save data will be gone too. And let's not forget Rumble which was last gen until they decided to put it back into the Ps3 controllers, just that you have to buy them seperately. And who wants to play PS2 games with upscaled graphics? Backwards compatibility is for chumps too.

Now that the PS3 is just barely outselling the 360, everyone is rejoicing as if blind to the fact its only being bought as a Blu-Ray player or that during the PS2's prime the very thought that Sony fanboys would be rejoicing at a Sony console outselling the Microsoft upstart by such a narrow margin sometime in the future.

It's bad to focus on just the present. Predictions and decisions should be made on what will happen in the future as well. The titles you mentioned are just huge ones. It's not like they're the only exclusives that are going to be released. If you want to focus on the present so much, the PS3 is gaining momentum, and fast...the first moment the PS3 starts outselling the 360, you act like it's at a constant rate. Momentum is still being gained.

The fact of multi-platform games starting to look better on the 360 now are changing as developers are getting used to the PS3 hardware. Assassin's Creed on the PS3 looks exactly like the 360 version. Burnout was developed on PS3 hardware and looks better on the PS3. DMC4 also looks identicle on both versions. The whole "360 version looks better" is starting to change now. More 360 games are starting to come to the PS3. Overlord for example. 360 fanboys can't use the "all PS3 exclusives go to the 360" excuse anymore as the opposite is now happening.

The 40GB PS3 is only $50 more than the Pro 360 and the 80GB PS3 is only $50 more than the Elite...price is becoming less of an issue. Also, the largest data I've seen that you've had to install on the PS3 is DMC4...and it was 5GB. You're not installing a lot of data on the HDD. It's nice for the loading times and it's a shame that Microsoft left out the hard drive in the core as developers can't require an HDD now. I would definitely take a load of the loading times for the 360 with the compression on DVDs and all.

Oh, and the 360 didn't start out with crappy BC at all, huh? The 80GB hasn't been completely eliminated yet, and it's being revived in Japan with the MGS4 bundle. It's not complete BC, but neither is the 360. 80GB still has BC with upscaled graphics...and the lucky ones to have 60GBs(like myself) have pretty much all PS2 games upscaled. And if you want to play your PS2 games so much...why not just keep your PS2? Sony had no excuse to take out BC in my opinion...I don't like the idea myself. But those that want to play PS2 games so bad probably already have PS2s.

Yeah, everyone is buying it for the Blu-ray player...where are you getting this idea from? Only 20% of people actually have HDTVs. A very small amount of people are probably just buying it as a Blu-ray player. I've been hearing a lot of people say 2008 is the year of the PS3. That's because some promising exclusives are coming out for it. People want these games, so they're preparing for them. Most people I know barely know what HD-DVD and Blu-ray are. My friends thought Blu-ray was just a more expensive DVD and had nothing to do with HD at all.

I doubt the rise in PS3's sales is a result of everybody wanting a Blu-ray player. Whether people refuse to believe it or not, the PS3 is starting to get games.


I hope you mean by what is likely to happen. Otherwise you are saying predictions should be based on, well, other predictions.

One is making an educated guess. The other is like paying off credit cards with credit cards.


Why would I mean otherwise? English isn't my best subject, so wording stuff correctly isn't something I'm good at...but I'm not stupid enough to say predictions should be based off of other predictions. Of course I meant what is likely to happen.


Just checking, that's all. There are some here who would insist on something that dumb.



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