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Forums - Sales Discussion - XBO and PS4 are selling upwards of 50K units combined a week in the UK at the moment

I find it hard to believe either console is selling that well.



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Seece said:
Troll_Whisperer said:

19k average means more like 12k average Jan-Oct and 50k average Nov-Dec.

But even if you take the 19k average and add PS3, you'd get 29k. Again, including holiday sales and the consoles' peak years.

I'm not saying it hasn't happened a couple of weeks. All I'm saying is that it's not a trend and we shouldn't expect this to happen on a wekly basis from October onwards.

Without being privy to the data you really can't make foregone conclusions like this. The article states Forza Horizon which was after Fifa. UK is seeing a lot more deals recently than the US is.

Jeez. Again, I'm not saying it didn't happen a couple of weeks. I'm saying, "are selling 50k a week at the moment" sounds like it's a trend. It can't be. A few weeks here and there yes. Not something that's gonna happen every week from FIFA onwards.



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Troll_Whisperer said:
Welfare said:

Have anything to back that up with, besides comparing it to US sales which is irrelevent as the UK market has been getting new bundles and price cuts compared to the US?

First of all, I don't really need anything to back it up because the OP doesn't have anything to back it up.

But even then:

As I said, that's like selling 300k a week in the US (yes, valid comparison). That would be 1,500,000 (!!!) in September's NPD. Even with Destiny and the PS4 having 2nd biggest HW sales in history, they did 820,000. As I said, 2nd biggest September in history, and it's not even close.

We also have other sources like Sony saying the sold 1m in the UK recently, that the PS4 is outselling Xbox One 1.5:1 in the UK and that on FIFA week Xbox One sales increased by 155% with a drop afterwards. You can easily find articles for all of those.

So again. It's possible during FIFA and Destiny weeks. Not on a consistent basis, that's nuts.


The OP is taken from GAF which is taken from MCV. They get HW and SW from GFK! Unless you really want to say that the trakers are wrong, go ahead.

Your second to last paragraph doesn't really say much, besides that after Destiny and Fifa, there was a spike and then a drop (we don't know how much of a drop though).

Without comparing the UK market to the US market, which as of the release of Fifa has been very different in terms of price and deals, you can't say that it's not possible for 50k a week combined. It might be nuts, yes, but if the tracker says so, you can't go against them. If you do, you might as well go after NPD, as they could've then over tracked Septemers numbers.



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Troll_Whisperer said:
Seece said:
Troll_Whisperer said:

19k average means more like 12k average Jan-Oct and 50k average Nov-Dec.

But even if you take the 19k average and add PS3, you'd get 29k. Again, including holiday sales and the consoles' peak years.

I'm not saying it hasn't happened a couple of weeks. All I'm saying is that it's not a trend and we shouldn't expect this to happen on a wekly basis from October onwards.

Without being privy to the data you really can't make foregone conclusions like this. The article states Forza Horizon which was after Fifa. UK is seeing a lot more deals recently than the US is.

Jeez. Again, I'm not saying it didn't happen a couple of weeks. I'm saying, "are selling 50k a week at the moment" sounds like it's a trend. It can't be. A few weeks here and there yes. Not something that's gonna happen every week from FIFA onwards.

It entirely depends on when this was writte, if it's within the last few days then I don't believe they would say "At the moment" for sales that are over 4 weeks old ....



 

Troll_Whisperer said:
Welfare said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
Not possible. Unless by "are selling" they mean Destiny or FIFA weeks.


It is getting closer to the holidays and each console has pretty good deals going on. How is it not possible? It even mentions that the One is doing better than before thanks to the price drop.

The UK is not a big enough market to sell 50k a week regularly, even in October. That's like selling 300k a week in the US. A couple of weeks yes, probably what they referred to (if the article exists at all because I couldn't find it. Maybe print?). Consistently, no.

The numbers are official from GFK. It is not up for debate, whether you think it's possible or not doesn't matter. The fact is combined they sell upwards of 50k a week.

 

edit: basically what Welfare said



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Troll_Whisperer said:
Seece said:
Troll_Whisperer said:

19k average means more like 12k average Jan-Oct and 50k average Nov-Dec.

But even if you take the 19k average and add PS3, you'd get 29k. Again, including holiday sales and the consoles' peak years.

I'm not saying it hasn't happened a couple of weeks. All I'm saying is that it's not a trend and we shouldn't expect this to happen on a wekly basis from October onwards.

Without being privy to the data you really can't make foregone conclusions like this. The article states Forza Horizon which was after Fifa. UK is seeing a lot more deals recently than the US is.

Jeez. Again, I'm not saying it didn't happen a couple of weeks. I'm saying, "are selling 50k a week at the moment" sounds like it's a trend. It can't be. A few weeks here and there yes. Not something that's gonna happen every week from FIFA onwards.

But you not give a good reason why not...

This are the facts.

1  PS4 + Xbo = 50K   Possible ratio 30K PS4 20K Xbo (that is a guess yeah)
2 Stated by yourself is that X360 did average 19k
3 September/October/November/December are the best months for sales so it would mean that Xbox 360 did more than 19k in Sept/Oct/Nov/Dec and could easy sell 20-25K weekly in september and so it would be not shocking that Xbo did 20K weekly in September...



Welfare said:

The OP is taken from GAF which is taken from MCV. They get HW and SW from GFK! Unless you really want to say that the trakers are wrong, go ahead.

Your second to last paragraph doesn't really say much, besides that after Destiny and Fifa, there was a spike and then a drop (we don't know how much of a drop though).

Without comparing the UK market to the US market, which as of the release of Fifa has been very different in terms of price and deals, you can't say that it's not possible for 50k a week combined. It might be nuts, yes, but if the tracker says so, you can't go against them. If you do, you might as well go after NPD, as they could've then over tracked Septemers numbers.

Where's that article? In any case, I already said it could have been misinterpreted or badly worded.

But whatever. Believe what you will. If you think they're selling over 50k every week with any consistency be my guest. I guess we expect 300k a week combined every week of December too.



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Troll_Whisperer said:
Welfare said:

The OP is taken from GAF which is taken from MCV. They get HW and SW from GFK! Unless you really want to say that the trakers are wrong, go ahead.

Your second to last paragraph doesn't really say much, besides that after Destiny and Fifa, there was a spike and then a drop (we don't know how much of a drop though).

Without comparing the UK market to the US market, which as of the release of Fifa has been very different in terms of price and deals, you can't say that it's not possible for 50k a week combined. It might be nuts, yes, but if the tracker says so, you can't go against them. If you do, you might as well go after NPD, as they could've then over tracked Septemers numbers.

Where's that article? In any case, I already said it could have been misinterpreted or badly worded.

But whatever. Believe what you will. If you think they're selling over 50k every week with any consistency be my guest. I guess we expect 300k a week combined every week of December too.

Did you check PS360 during Octobers past? 2011 they were above 40k combined every week. And that was 2011 when the gen was starting to tank, if we had 08/09 figures I can only imaging what they were doing.



 

GamechaserBE said:

But you not give a good reason why not...

This are the facts.

1  PS4 + Xbo = 50K   Possible ratio 30K PS4 20K Xbo (that is a guess yeah)
2 Stated by yourself is that X360 did average 19k
3 September/October/November/December are the best months for sales so it would mean that Xbox 360 did more than 19k in Sept/Oct/Nov/Dec and could easy sell 20-25K weekly in september and so it would be not shocking that Xbo did 20K weekly in September...

They're not gonna sell above average in September. They're gonna sell waaaaay above average in Nov-Dec, way below in Jan-Oct.

For example, Xbox 360 sold 270,000 p/ week on average in 2011, but only averaged 170k in September that year.



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Troll_Whisperer said:

Where's that article? In any case, I already said it could have been misinterpreted or badly worded.

But whatever. Believe what you will. If you think they're selling over 50k every week with any consistency be my guest. I guess we expect 300k a week combined every week of December too.


In the MCV magazine.

Also we are basically in the holiday months right now. A December week could get as high as 300k. Depends on how MS and Sony push this Holiday.



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287