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prinz_valium on 26 October 2014
Troll_Whisperer said:
prinz_valium said:

yes, but that was not the baseline

that was the "ohh we will realse a new sku in 2 weeks. dont buy our current ones anymore"  week or weeks

The baseline was well below 50k before they announced the price cut. On May the 10th (the week before the kinectless announcement) it sold 37k. Xbox One sales simply plummeted after Titanfall's release.


that was after the vgc adjustments

vgc is tracking on a weekly base and use an wow change algorithm. so i woundt fit to just pull 2 or 3 weeks down by hand.

and if there is 37k as the lowester overall sales in a year, thats NOT even the BASELINE

thats a dip



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3sexty on 26 October 2014
eva01beserk said:
Aerys said:
wary-wallaroo said:

And X1 below 100k just like I said it would. I remember someone telling me it'd be a long time before that happened, yet here we are (wish I could remember who).

I expect the X1 to jump around, probably climb up through the holidays before it absolutely crashes in January. After that crash, it won't recover until either a price cut or Halo 5. It'll have a sub 60k baseline for most of 2015.


And most people didnt believe when i said 40M was the best scenario for X1

I think your both being to kind in your predictions. There is nothing exclusive coming to the x1 next year untill the hollidays. The other consoles will destroy it. When bloodborne and the order come out, we wot even be hearing whispers of the x1, aside from the usual "wait for halo5".

Do you honestly think the WiiU will destroy the XOne next year?  I think you are being way too kind in your WiiU predictions.  This is very unlikely based on current and past WiiU sales trend (and current Xone trends for that matter).  



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eva01beserk on 26 October 2014
3sexty said:
eva01beserk said:
Aerys said:


And most people didnt believe when i said 40M was the best scenario for X1

I think your both being to kind in your predictions. There is nothing exclusive coming to the x1 next year untill the hollidays. The other consoles will destroy it. When bloodborne and the order come out, we wot even be hearing whispers of the x1, aside from the usual "wait for halo5".

Do you honestly think the WiiU will destroy the XOne next year?  I think you are being way too kind in your WiiU predictions.  This is very unlikely based on current and past WiiU sales trend (and current Xone trends for that matter).  

The one will have to big of a drop from the lack of exclusives coming. The ps4 will eat most of its sells. Ater halo;mmc all die hard fans will already have the console and sales will plumet begining next year. Nintendo will not do gangbuster but it will increase a bit and it will be enough to outsell the x1.



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3sexty on 27 October 2014
eva01beserk said:
3sexty said:
eva01beserk said:
Aerys said:


And most people didnt believe when i said 40M was the best scenario for X1

I think your both being to kind in your predictions. There is nothing exclusive coming to the x1 next year untill the hollidays. The other consoles will destroy it. When bloodborne and the order come out, we wot even be hearing whispers of the x1, aside from the usual "wait for halo5".

Do you honestly think the WiiU will destroy the XOne next year?  I think you are being way too kind in your WiiU predictions.  This is very unlikely based on current and past WiiU sales trend (and current Xone trends for that matter).  

The one will have to big of a drop from the lack of exclusives coming. The ps4 will eat most of its sells. Ater halo;mmc all die hard fans will already have the console and sales will plumet begining next year. Nintendo will not do gangbuster but it will increase a bit and it will be enough to outsell the x1.

So what will give the WiiU the increase u talk about? Past trends are dismal.  WiiU was out almost 18 months earlier than the One and the One will have already caught up by most likely the end of this year.  Even during periods without excusives the One was performing better than the U.  Also, the One's lowest point in sales was considerably higher than the U's lowest point.  Sorry but I dont understand what your prediction is based on.  Again current and past trends (excusives aside) tell a different picture.  Oh and I am sure there will be significant game annoucements closer to 2015. I realy cannot see how WiiU is going to be able to compete with XboxOne moving forward.



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eva01beserk on 27 October 2014
3sexty said:
eva01beserk said:
3sexty said:

Do you honestly think the WiiU will destroy the XOne next year?  I think you are being way too kind in your WiiU predictions.  This is very unlikely based on current and past WiiU sales trend (and current Xone trends for that matter).  

The one will have to big of a drop from the lack of exclusives coming. The ps4 will eat most of its sells. Ater halo;mmc all die hard fans will already have the console and sales will plumet begining next year. Nintendo will not do gangbuster but it will increase a bit and it will be enough to outsell the x1.

So what will give the WiiU the increase u talk about? Past trends are dismal.  WiiU was out almost 18 months earlier than the One and the One will have already caught up by most likely the end of this year.  Even during periods without excusives the One was performing better than the U.  Also, the One's lowest point in sales was considerably higher than the U's lowest point.  Sorry but I dont understand what your prediction is based on.  Again current and past trends (excusives aside) tell a different picture.  Oh and I am sure there will be significant game annoucements closer to 2015. I realy cannot see how WiiU is going to be able to compete with XboxOne moving forward.

Sure, if we ignore the wii u had no third party support and the x1 did and nintendo brought so very few games for those 18 months you could say that. But fact is as shown by E3 that nintendo is bringing a lot more next year. Then later they said they are planing one game every month. Whyle the x1 has zero games coming untill the later half of next year. Third party will be great and all, but who is picking an x1 over the ps4 for only third party multyplats? fanboys and multy console owners. Most famboys will be done by the time MCC comes and multy console owners wont come fast enough without exclusives to drive them so if they dind do it by the time sunset and MMC came then they will wait for quantom and halo 5.



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3sexty on 27 October 2014
eva01beserk said:
3sexty said:
eva01beserk said:
3sexty said:

Do you honestly think the WiiU will destroy the XOne next year?  I think you are being way too kind in your WiiU predictions.  This is very unlikely based on current and past WiiU sales trend (and current Xone trends for that matter).  

The one will have to big of a drop from the lack of exclusives coming. The ps4 will eat most of its sells. Ater halo;mmc all die hard fans will already have the console and sales will plumet begining next year. Nintendo will not do gangbuster but it will increase a bit and it will be enough to outsell the x1.

So what will give the WiiU the increase u talk about? Past trends are dismal.  WiiU was out almost 18 months earlier than the One and the One will have already caught up by most likely the end of this year.  Even during periods without excusives the One was performing better than the U.  Also, the One's lowest point in sales was considerably higher than the U's lowest point.  Sorry but I dont understand what your prediction is based on.  Again current and past trends (excusives aside) tell a different picture.  Oh and I am sure there will be significant game annoucements closer to 2015. I realy cannot see how WiiU is going to be able to compete with XboxOne moving forward.

Sure, if we ignore the wii u had no third party support and the x1 did and nintendo brought so very few games for those 18 months you could say that. But fact is as shown by E3 that nintendo is bringing a lot more next year. Then later they said they are planing one game every month. Whyle the x1 has zero games coming untill the later half of next year. Third party will be great and all, but who is picking an x1 over the ps4 for only third party multyplats? fanboys and multy console owners. Most famboys will be done by the time MCC comes and multy console owners wont come fast enough without exclusives to drive them so if they dind do it by the time sunset and MMC came then they will wait for quantom and halo 5.

"wii u had no third party support" - As you point out yourself this is what has been killing the Wii U and will continue to do so. The exclusives have not been helping Wii U at all. A couple of big exclusives already out for the a Wii U  and the XOne still easily outselling it even before it releases its own exclusives. This will nt change next year.



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