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Keep telling yourselves (and more detrimentally 3rd parties) Nintendo doesn't need thired parties, and you will assure Wii U of a very poor generation.

Lack of 3rd party support is part of why Wii U is in the position it's in today. If you like Wii U being in that position then fine. But if you would rather Wii U was in a much better position you should not be actively trying to alienate people who can help improve Wii U's fortunes. Though I suspect it's too late for this generation.



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binary solo said:
Keep telling yourselves (and more detrimentally 3rd parties) Nintendo doesn't need thired parties, and you will assure Wii U of a very poor generation.

Lack of 3rd party support is part of why Wii U is in the position it's in today. If you like Wii U being in that position then fine. But if you would rather Wii U was in a much better position you should not be actively trying to alienate people who can help improve Wii U's fortunes. Though I suspect it's too late for this generation.

You guys really aren't reading the article... lmao

Title-commenters, title-commenters everywhere!

While I'm here, though, the article is about how Nintendo is instead using the inherent lack of 3rd party support to work on exclusives with 3rd parties rather than trying to "woo" them into coming back on their own.  What better way to get 3rd party support than to work with them on making an exclusive game for your system?

This is why you read the article instead of responding to the threat title, lol



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ZyroXZ2 said:
binary solo said:
Keep telling yourselves (and more detrimentally 3rd parties) Nintendo doesn't need thired parties, and you will assure Wii U of a very poor generation.

Lack of 3rd party support is part of why Wii U is in the position it's in today. If you like Wii U being in that position then fine. But if you would rather Wii U was in a much better position you should not be actively trying to alienate people who can help improve Wii U's fortunes. Though I suspect it's too late for this generation.

You guys really aren't reading the article... lmao

Title-commenters, title-commenters everywhere!

While I'm here, though, the article is about how Nintendo is instead using the inherent lack of 3rd party support to work on exclusives with 3rd parties rather than trying to "woo" them into coming back on their own.  What better way to get 3rd party support than to work with them on making an exclusive game for your system?

This is why you read the article instead of responding to the threat title, lol

Well in that case the title should be "why lack of 3rd party multiplatform games on Wii U may be a blessing". Because 3rd party exclusives on Wii U = 3rd party support, only in a different form. And yes if you can get quantity AND quality from 3rd parties that way it is a good strategy to compensate for lack of multiplatform 3rd party support. However if a large proportion of the consle fanbase follows the big selling 3rd party multiplatform games, and even when Wii U gets those games they are lesser quality renditions of what's on PS4 and Xb one, then going your own way with mostly niche 3rd party exclusives is only going to get you so far.

I wouldn't call it a blessing, though.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

ZyroXZ2 said:

You guys really aren't reading the article... lmao


It may have helped if you put a little bit of your article in the OP. Nobody likes to click on external links.



Absolutely lovely piece. With that amount of sarcasm you still manage to sound like a regular nintendo fan. Great. :D



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I entirely disagree with the delusional article. It can only come from an excessive positive guy who likes Nintendo. The truth however is completely opposite. The article says things like:

1) It's ok because Nintendo has money.
No, it's not ok. Companies are here to make money, when then don't then they have a problem. If it was OK in any sense, why they struggle so much to win?

2) The lack of third party does't improve quality or quantity of first party games.
Actually, Nintendo has a historic of doing a lot of great games despite the amount of hardware sales, just take a look at GameCube and N64. The reason why they these two consoles failed? All multiplatforms were in PlayStations which improved the console library so much that most people didn't really see a reason to purchase a Nintendo. And like people said, PS3 is a good example of unique games + multiple. Wii is another case, due to his weak hardware, it had an unique library and good sales, but that's something hard to replicate on Wii U.

3) Patience is not a virtue
Every company is fighting hard to win money because they simply can't wait. Sony is deciding what to do with Vita, Xbox is trying to compete with PS4 and so on.

Now my personal view:
4) It creates arrogance on Nintendo fans
Nintendo does not have a very good historic with 3rd party, actually they are quite arrogant about. It's not that 3rd party does not like Nintendo, quite the opposite, both Platinum and Ubisoft are being very supportive. But the fans simply don't buy 3rd party software because they think it's not needed. With so much people buying exclusively for Nintendo games, there's not much reason for 3rd to invest on console, furthering the problems of hardware sales.



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It MAY be a blessing. It is not.

ZyroXZ2 talks about a unique library and mentions a LEGO game, follows it with Devil's third. LMFAO.

Get real.



Phronesis said:

I entirely disagree with the delusional article. It can only come from an excessive positive guy who likes Nintendo. The truth however is completely opposite. The article says things like:

I think you skimmed the article...

1) It's ok because Nintendo has money.
No, it's not ok. Companies are here to make money, when then don't then they have a problem. If it was OK in any sense, why they struggle so much to win?

Uh, we're not saying lack of third party support is okay because they have money, we're saying the situation is not as dire because they have money to DO something about it...


2) The lack of third party does't improve quality or quantity of first party games.
Actually, Nintendo has a historic of doing a lot of great games despite the amount of hardware sales, just take a look at GameCube and N64. The reason why they these two consoles failed? All multiplatforms were in PlayStations which improved the console library so much that most people didn't really see a reason to purchase a Nintendo. And like people said, PS3 is a good example of unique games + multiple. Wii is another case, due to his weak hardware, it had an unique library and good sales, but that's something hard to replicate on Wii U.

Nowhere in the article is first party games mentioned... So... Skimming?


3) Patience is not a virtue
Every company is fighting hard to win money because they simply can't wait. Sony is deciding what to do with Vita, Xbox is trying to compete with PS4 and so on.

Actually, it really is... It truly, really is... Nowhere does anyway say "Rush into decisions, make things happen on a whim!"... lol... The fact that the XBox1 removed the Kinect more than 6 months later tells you decisions take time to plan out, whether they look as simple as flicking a switch to us "consumers".


Now my personal view:
4) It creates arrogance on Nintendo fans
Nintendo does not have a very good historic with 3rd party, actually they are quite arrogant about. It's not that 3rd party does not like Nintendo, quite the opposite, both Platinum and Ubisoft are being very supportive. But the fans simply don't buy 3rd party software because they think it's not needed. With so much people buying exclusively for Nintendo games, there's not much reason for 3rd to invest on console, furthering the problems of hardware sales.

I think you completely glossed over the fact that many, and I'm talking probably a MAJORITY, of Nintendo fans are actual multi-console owners.  I, too, will eventually own all three current gen consoles, PLUS having my gaming PC.  If I had to choose of my 4 platforms which to get a 3rd party game on, wouldn't I just pick the one its best on?  Right?

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Edit: Made my responses italic, and fixed a typo that I saw while I was at it!



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binary solo said:
ZyroXZ2 said:
binary solo said:
Keep telling yourselves (and more detrimentally 3rd parties) Nintendo doesn't need thired parties, and you will assure Wii U of a very poor generation.

Lack of 3rd party support is part of why Wii U is in the position it's in today. If you like Wii U being in that position then fine. But if you would rather Wii U was in a much better position you should not be actively trying to alienate people who can help improve Wii U's fortunes. Though I suspect it's too late for this generation.

You guys really aren't reading the article... lmao

Title-commenters, title-commenters everywhere!

While I'm here, though, the article is about how Nintendo is instead using the inherent lack of 3rd party support to work on exclusives with 3rd parties rather than trying to "woo" them into coming back on their own.  What better way to get 3rd party support than to work with them on making an exclusive game for your system?

This is why you read the article instead of responding to the threat title, lol

Well in that case the title should be "why lack of 3rd party multiplatform games on Wii U may be a blessing". Because 3rd party exclusives on Wii U = 3rd party support, only in a different form. And yes if you can get quantity AND quality from 3rd parties that way it is a good strategy to compensate for lack of multiplatform 3rd party support. However if a large proportion of the consle fanbase follows the big selling 3rd party multiplatform games, and even when Wii U gets those games they are lesser quality renditions of what's on PS4 and Xb one, then going your own way with mostly niche 3rd party exclusives is only going to get you so far.

I wouldn't call it a blessing, though.

Fair enough... But that's a LONGASS title... hahaha



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No, definitley 100% NOT!!!

I love 3rd parties :(