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Here is some data

VGC (first six months detailed)

X360 PS3

Nov - 305,237 196,672

Dec - 258,045 471,090

Jan - 228,761 200,469

Feb - 163,017 131,936

Mar - 183,539 143,839

Apr - 270,286 83,976

 

Total - 1,408,885 1,227,982

 

X1 PS4

Nov - 969,058 1,190,979

Dec - 963,807 889,834

Jan - 169,062 295,963

Feb - 233,740 259,941

Mar - 318,663 345,110

Apr - 217,589 212,096 

 

Total - 2,871,919 3,193,923

Growth - 103,8% 160%

(MS PR have it at 76%)

Total Growth - 130% 

So How "shit" are the numbers for X360 and PS3 on the site for the first 6 months in USA?

 

Now using real NPD data

First Six months 

X360 - 1,500k PS3 - 1,280k

(almost 100k under) (over 50k under)

X1 PS4

Nov - 909k 1,145k

Dec - 908k 863k

Jan - 141k 271k

Feb - 258k 285k

Mar - 311k 371k

Apr - 115k 185k (going on the leaked total)

 

Total - 2,642k 3,110k

VGC (230k overtacked) (83k overtracked)

Growth - 76% 147% (holy cow)

(first six months on VGC undertracked for X360)

Total Growth 106% (close on the call of over double sales)

If even after all the corrections VGC is still this off, how close are they on the weekly figures???

They estimated 217k for X1 April, NPD have it at 115k meaning almost 90% of error in numbers... And there were people complaining when some users discredited the weekly sales numbers recently. Let's see if VGC get a hold of it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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90% error is simply ridiculous. Even the worst predictors on the site came closer to the official numbers than VGC did.



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Fusioncode said:
90% error is simply ridiculous. Even the worst predictors on the site came closer to the official numbers than VGC did.


Well, we have some overly excited predictors that got worst results, like John Lucas, Zero99 (or something like this), sales2099 (or ...), and some others.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Still. That margin of error makes me doubt NPD a little. I just don't see why PS4 would dominate THAT much in April without any major releases.



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vivster said:
Still. That margin of error makes me doubt NPD a little. I just don't see why PS4 would dominate THAT much in April without any major releases.

NPD numbers are generally super-duper mega ultra reliable compared to VGC on hardware, now it's up to us to figure out why PS4 did so well?



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All I would like to see is an explanation why. :/



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vivster said:
Still. That margin of error makes me doubt NPD a little. I just don't see why PS4 would dominate THAT much in April without any major releases.


That's the point. Billion dollar company's trust NPD group. What's VGChartz? You get freaking banned on other game sites (almost all of them) if you even mention this sites numbers. They will call the numbers "bullsh*t". People will laugh at you for even believing those numbers, I really like this community and that's why I daily visit this site, but I have to admit, I never really trust the numbers. Only we (this community) believes or at least enjoys the numbers and this site. The majority of the gamining sites think's otherwise, and I can't blame them.



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ImmortalHelixFossil said:
vivster said:
Still. That margin of error makes me doubt NPD a little. I just don't see why PS4 would dominate THAT much in April without any major releases.


That's the point. Billion dollar company's trust NPD group. What's VGChartz? You get freaking banned on other game sites (almost all of them) if you even mention this sites numbers. They will call the numbers "bullsh*t". People will laugh at you for even believing those numbers, I really like this community and that's why I daily visit this site, but I have to admit, I never really trust the numbers. Only we (this community) believes or at least enjoys the numbers and this site. The majority of the gamining sites think's otherwise, and I can't blame them.

I have doubt not because NPD contradicts VGC but my expectations. I didn't expect X1 to do that horribly in comparison to PS4. I would've believed it if the kinectless X1 was already announced but these numbers are just really surprising. After all this is Xbox country.



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vivster said:
Still. That margin of error makes me doubt NPD a little. I just don't see why PS4 would dominate THAT much in April without any major releases.

The answer is obvious ... The lead console for a generaton are known to be more impervious to the effects of a small drought. The PS4 simply doesn't require a consistent flow of quality releases for a while to get decent hardware numbers up the charts. 



fatslob-:O said:
vivster said:
Still. That margin of error makes me doubt NPD a little. I just don't see why PS4 would dominate THAT much in April without any major releases.

The answer is obvious ... The lead console for a generaton are known to be more impervious to the effects of a small drought. The PS4 simply doesn't require a consistent flow of quality releases for a while to get decent hardware numbers up the charts. 

Just didn't think  americans hate the X1 so much. Maybe the Xbox core fanbase is much smaller than I thought.

But I think we'll see everything we need to know in the next holidays.



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