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What does Obama hope to accomplish? alterior motive?

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LiquorandGunFun on 17 July 2014

Now the mighty russians have shot down a civilian plane. Good job assholes.



 

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VanceIX on 17 July 2014
Kasz216 said:
Sharu said:

Nice words, but what can you do to make it real?
Say, if USA wants it to be true, they have 2 ways:
1. Take other's nuclear weapons by military power, crush all the science who can produce it and the civil objects using it (like Nuclear power plants, as potentially it can lead to weapons).
2. Be a moral leader of the world, get rid of nuclear weapons themselves and say - hey look at me and do it the way I do.

Which way would you prefer?


Neither is possible, once someone has nukes you can't take them away.

 

That said.  When it comes to limiting nukes, for example I'd prefer 1, but not just including the US but most nuclear states and most countries who support them.  Only in the cases where countries refuse to stop setting up nuclear weapons programs with other methods.  (Like the sanctions that currently exist etc(.

 

Why?  Because the world isn't an episode of Captain Planet.

No country is really going to follow suit.

 

Hell no country would even believe the US got rid of all their nukes.  Just like with Biological weapons.

 

and Nuclear plants where countries like Russia supply and recover all the Uranium works well enough to keep Nuclear Plants in buisness.

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fighter on 17 July 2014

seems like putiny is caught between the hammer and the anvil


if he keeps destabilizing Ukraine the western sanctions will set the russian economy to a halt

if he retreats from Ukraine he will lose face after the months of propaganda



Xevross on 17 July 2014

Obama was right.



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fighter on 17 July 2014
LiquorandGunFun said:

Now the mighty russians have shot down a civilian plane. Good job assholes.


They thought it was a ukrainian transport plane An-26 and claimed it publicly...

 

http://lifenews.ru/news/136801

 

 

seems like Russia has lost face again



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MoHasanie on 17 July 2014

Wow, Obama was actually right!



    

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Sharu on 17 July 2014
LiquorandGunFun said:

Now the mighty russians have shot down a civilian plane. Good job assholes.

Spanish avia man @spainbuca writes in his twitter from Kiev that the plane was shot by Ukraine military. So FU.

If anybody could properly translate his tweets from Spanish to English that wouldbe very nice.



mai on 17 July 2014
fighter said:
LiquorandGunFun said:

Now the mighty russians have shot down a civilian plane. Good job assholes.


They thought it was a ukrainian transport plane An-26 and claimed it publicly...

 

http://lifenews.ru/news/136801

 

 

seems like Russia has lost face again

The report on shot down An-26 came in two hours before Boeing has crashed. The link you referred doesn't even mention Boeing.

Not to mention any allegations that they've confirmed the shot of the Boeing came from very "trusty" source of Tymchuk, one of the field commanders of Ukrainian paramilitary (as he claims, nobody seen him anywhere but in FB, basically he's a spokeperson), who refers to (nota bene) a fake account of commander-in-chief of DPR in VK (Strelkov obviously doesn't have any accounts in VK). Adorable :D



Sharu on 17 July 2014

Two things.
First, black boxes from fallen plane are found by the rebels and they ready to give it for the investigation.

Second. I'm amazed by how western people are easily fallen to propaganda. Two months Ukraine army was killing hundreds of innocent people in Donetsk and Lugansk. Bombing cities, killing kids and women. Half a million people run from East Ukraine to Russia to save their lives. Nobody cared. Now 300 people of Holland people died and the world would be dancing on its head blaming Putin without any evidences.

Are you ok with this?



fighter on 17 July 2014
mai said:

The report on shot down An-26 came in two hours before Boeing has crashed. The link you referred doesn't even mention Boeing.

Not to mention any allegations that they've confirmed the shot of the Boeing came from very "trusty" source of Tymchuk, one of the field commanders of Ukrainian paramilitary (as he claims, nobody seen him anywhere but in FB, basically he's a spokeperson), who refers to (nota bene) a fake account of commander-in-chief of DPR in VK (Strelkov obviously doesn't have any accounts in VK). Adorable :D

Of course it doesn't mention boeing...

The russian terrorists thought they had attacked a ukrainian military transport plane "around" 5:30 GMT +2 (link previously provided)

 

 

 

who is Tymchuk and who cares ?