6:1 ratio in latest Germany charts.

No bs allowed in this industry. You act stupid and gamers will punish you. MS faces a massive uphill battle if they plan on being number one this gen.

Ia company probably would not use fols tools as they would have their own. Mostly individual investors use websites like fool or Morningstar. This article may be a tad sensensionalist but most of the fact are not.

Would explain why I've never heard of it before. Will definitely use in the future though for my own personal gain Anyway I'm not arguing with the facts of the article but the way the author approached the whole situation. Retailers always bundle games with consoles to attract customers so if we were to go by the author's claims then surely the PS3 and 360 must've done terribly (since they were both bundled with games by retailers) which is clearly not the case. The X1 certainly isn't in the best position at the moment but it is surely doing better than one of its two competitors.

All this talk about being too expensive or no killer gamers or being underpowered or blah blah...

I'm surprised so many people are missing the elephant in the room when it comes to XBox.

This is what happens when a company damages their brand with constant and pricey hardware problems coupled with a weak response. The 360 and its endless RRoDs has damaged the XBox brand, maybe irreparably so. I think I'm not alone in not wanting any more Microsoft consoles. They fail. They cost too much to repair. The customer service from MS is god-awful. You end up having to buy another one or face not being able to play all those expensive games.

It sucks.

Personally, I've sworn off MS for games. It's Sony and Nintendo from now on, and I know lots of others who feel the same.

i still to this day swear that yes they sold 80+ million systems but i think at least 20 million of those units were rebuys do to the issues the 360 had.  i dont think its installed userbase was more then 60 million WW  The Red ring of death i honestly believe artificially inflated numbers, for example of me and my 6 friends who had xbox 360s all had to buy a second system and 3 of them bought a 3rd when thier second died. Thats 15 360s for just 6 people.

Umm, the whole "RROD" thing is ancient history to most gamers... M$ had its most successful years saleswise with the 360 AFTER the whole RROD fiasco, so the whole "it damaged M$'s brand" argument doesn't fly today.  They gave everyone who had an older model console a 3 year warranty extension and fixed disc-drive and general failure issues free of charge when under warranty.  I had my 360 RROD on me back in 2008... couple weeks later I received a new one and I haven't had a single problem since.  So much for the whole "costing too much to repair" argument and customer service being lousy... especially since the console was $100-$200 cheaper than PS3 throughout the last generation to begin with, and the PS3 was not without its own h/w issues, though certainly not on the scale of RROD.

No, the big elephant in the room here is the fact that if M$ didn't shoot themselves in the foot by proving the DRM / always on 24/7 rumors true and forcing Kinect 2.0 on everyone which made the console more expensive than PS4, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now because the PS4 wouldn't have the edge it does due to the price and DRM factors.

There would have been no pre-E3 controversy, M$ would have had their show and announced a price of $399, and then Sony would have followed with a "me-to" press conference with the only other noteworty announcements being that online gaming on PSN would now be behind a paywall on PS4, and more previously Sony-exclusive main titles of 3rd party franchises like MGS and Kingdom Hearts were going multiplatform.

It's not ancient history.  It's still happening. 

The XBox 360 still has an abyssmal failure rate (maybe not as bad as before, but it's still bad.) MS finally figured out how to shut down all the bad publicity they were getting. I know entirely too many people who have had the "Red Dot of Death" on the newer 360. The problem persists and MS has never released figures for failure rates. I own one such XBox. 1.5 years after purchase and it failed out of the blue. I've never owned a console that died that early. (And lucky me, I wasn't covered... $115 down the drain courtesy of MS not covering it. Oh and that's not to mention the $100 external hard drive the XBox killed when it failed that MS refuses to cover.) 

Beyond that, I know countless people who have experienced the same thing. One of the guys I work with is on his FIFTH 360. Another is on his third. 

That's inexcusable, and when I ask them if they're interested in the XBox One, they laugh. They buy 360s because they have invested too much in the games but they, like me, won't be continuing on with the XBox One. The E3 fiasco is very "inside baseball," so to speak. It's only something that matters to very hardcore gamers who follow this stuff. Most gamers don't know about it. The reality is that Microsoft has irreparably damaged the XBox brand with their shoddy quality and incredibly embarrassing customer service response.

This old chestnut?

The numbers are real. MS can't lie to shareholders.

I know a good number of people who went through multiple 360s as well, but like I said the failure rate is nothing like it was in the early days, and M$ weathered the storm of bad publicity by publicly owning up to it, and the 360 was far and away the top selling console for the last few years here in NA once the Wii ran out of steam... PS3 didn't even come close in sales despite the 2009 re-launch with the slim model.

M$ lost all that momentum though with the DRM fiasco, and Sony hammered away at that point as often as they could leading up to launch, so all that negativity coupled with the higher price point is what's causing the X1's early struggles, and the lower price point coupled with the relative scarcity (seeing something always sold out makes you want it more... see the Wii) is what's making people want to buy a PS4 at the moment, despite the fact that software-wise both consoles are pretty much on even ground and offer essentially the same multimedia features.

Bottom line is nobody is talking about the 360s hardware failures these days, and the X1 hasn't experienced anything like that so far, so the whole "M$ damaged their brand because of the shoddy quality of  their consoles" doesn't fly.  The reality is that Sony is winning the PR battle and that's spilling over into the mainstream gaming audience, and traditinally 2 out of the 3 major regions for console gaming have been Sony territory for the past 2 decades aside from a few years of the Wii phenomenon, so M$ has faced an uphill battle from the start.