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ethomaz said:
endimion said:
what??? like production will be an issue in q2 &3... production in 2014 is not the issue... march april may or sept octobre or novembre is the best spots with sept oct nov being the best.... either titanfall launch or halo or other next year big title for the holiday season makes complete sense

Production is a issue for MS since release... that is the reason for them delayed in some countries... that is the reason for them not launch in these countries in Jan-Mar for example.

While in the other planet they are launch for every single country before March 2014.

source?



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So the countries outside the 13 launch for Xbone are now irrelevant



DirtyP2002 said:

source?

This own news... the news about 21 to 13 countries... the supply that can't match the PS4 numbers...



ethomaz said:

DirtyP2002 said:

source?

This own news... the news about 21 to 13 countries... the supply that can't match the PS4 numbers...


link?



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GamechaserBE said:
endimion said:
Who are we kidding here sweden, Denmark, Norway, Switzerland, Belgium are around 40 million inhabitants combine.... those country while relevant are anything but major countries when it comes to market shares or even brand value globally.... they'd be better off releasing in India and not at all in those countries even with the poverty level you have over there....

And please with the Xbox defeat that's just uber lolable... they are doing just fine and won't have anything remotely comparable with the struggle of the ps3 last gen.... if Xbox one is a defeat ps3 even with current numbers was a catastrophe in comparison....

Bottom line I have mine and I am pleased with it which really is all that matters to me as a customer


Russia, Belgium, Holland, Switzerland, Sweden, Finland, Norway and Denmark are more than 160 million inhabitants combined or that is saying that the UK + France + Spain market is not important.

Lol yeah you have Russia... with what 118 million.... with a 90% rate of piracy, the best selling console will be the easiest to hack over there... i'd take UK France Germany over those country any day in terms of potential revenue....

So you're statement is wrong even with more inhabitants.... the countries they released in so far are way more important than Russia and other smaller countries in that list with maybe a couple exception.... this is not to say those country are shit, just that from pure business prospective they are not as important and by far for some (Scandinavia)...

On an other note, not sure where the deal in china is going... but even that to me seems way more relevant and profitable for MS than those 160 million split up over many countries with a smaller ratio of console gamers for a good half...



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DirtyP2002 said:

link?

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http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/03/ps4-sells-over-21-million-units-globally

They shipped more than 2.1m that a week ago... I think with the new shipment for Best Buy and others last weekend they already are close or over 2.5m shipped WW.

MS not reached 2 million shipped WW yet... in fact the difference between sales is close to 1 million right now.



endimion said:
GamechaserBE said:
endimion said:
Who are we kidding here sweden, Denmark, Norway, Switzerland, Belgium are around 40 million inhabitants combine.... those country while relevant are anything but major countries when it comes to market shares or even brand value globally.... they'd be better off releasing in India and not at all in those countries even with the poverty level you have over there....

And please with the Xbox defeat that's just uber lolable... they are doing just fine and won't have anything remotely comparable with the struggle of the ps3 last gen.... if Xbox one is a defeat ps3 even with current numbers was a catastrophe in comparison....

Bottom line I have mine and I am pleased with it which really is all that matters to me as a customer


Russia, Belgium, Holland, Switzerland, Sweden, Finland, Norway and Denmark are more than 160 million inhabitants combined or that is saying that the UK + France + Spain market is not important.

Lol yeah you have Russia... with what 118 million.... with a 90% rate of piracy, the best selling console will be the easiest to hack over there... i'd take UK France Germany over those country any day in terms of potential revenue....

So you're statement is wrong even with more inhabitants.... the countries they released in so far are way more important than Russia and other smaller countries in that list with maybe a couple exception.... this is not to say those country are shit, just that from pure business prospective they are not as important and by far for some (Scandinavia)...

On an other note, not sure where the deal in china is going... but even that to me seems way more relevant and profitable for MS than those 160 million split up over many countries with a smaller ratio of console gamers for a good half...

Indeed Russia has a lot of piracy but:


Russia’s active gamer population rivals that of Germany’s – the European country with the highest number of gamers. Russia had an active gamer population of 38 million in 2011, topping Germany’s 36 million, and making Russia the world’s 2nd largest country in terms of game population (behind the US). In addition, 53% of Russia’s gamers spend money on games, resulting in a $1.5 million industry and Russia's most popular form of visual entertainment (ahead of movies).  These statistics are only expected to rise in future years, with PricewaterhouseCoopers predicting Russia's game sales to hit $1.7 billion in 2015, becoming the 4th largest market in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa, rising to $35.7 billion.

And the nordic gaming market is huge!

Bringing us to the big question – which countries drive the Western European game market?  The Ipsos Media CT and Interactive Software Federation of Europe compiled their research to reveal telling statistics about the region.  According to their market research, Germany leads the European market with $461 million in sales, the UK ranking 2nd at $382 million, France 3rd at $336 million, and Spain 4th at $140 million.  However, the Nordic region dominates the region, comprising over $600 million in sales as a collective area.

http://www.lai.com/en/game-industry-statistics



endimion said:
GamechaserBE said:
endimion said:
Who are we kidding here sweden, Denmark, Norway, Switzerland, Belgium are around 40 million inhabitants combine.... those country while relevant are anything but major countries when it comes to market shares or even brand value globally.... they'd be better off releasing in India and not at all in those countries even with the poverty level you have over there....

And please with the Xbox defeat that's just uber lolable... they are doing just fine and won't have anything remotely comparable with the struggle of the ps3 last gen.... if Xbox one is a defeat ps3 even with current numbers was a catastrophe in comparison....

Bottom line I have mine and I am pleased with it which really is all that matters to me as a customer


Russia, Belgium, Holland, Switzerland, Sweden, Finland, Norway and Denmark are more than 160 million inhabitants combined or that is saying that the UK + France + Spain market is not important.

Lol yeah you have Russia... with what 118 million.... with a 90% rate of piracy, the best selling console will be the easiest to hack over there... i'd take UK France Germany over those country any day in terms of potential revenue....

So you're statement is wrong even with more inhabitants.... the countries they released in so far are way more important than Russia and other smaller countries in that list with maybe a couple exception.... this is not to say those country are shit, just that from pure business prospective they are not as important and by far for some (Scandinavia)...

On an other note, not sure where the deal in china is going... but even that to me seems way more relevant and profitable for MS than those 160 million split up over many countries with a smaller ratio of console gamers for a good half...

But even still you can't just act like this is insignificant though. This is not a smart move at all if this "rumor" is ture that would hurt them more than it would help them. It would really hurt their marker share. While they are focusing on UK, USA etc at best right now they would only be even(statistical tie) with PS4 in those markets. But getting beat out EVERYWHERE else in the world and waiting ALMSOT A YEAR to release in those other places just seems silly.

I may be wrong of course but it just doesn't seem all that wise business in my opinon. I would even see them cutting the price super early like the PS3 had to so early in its life. But time will tell how it plays out! I hope they know what they are doing because I want to have some good games on both my PS4 and XB1 when I eventually get them. I don't want to be disappointed like I ended up being with my 360 due to lack of support game wise.



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ethomaz said:
So the countries outside the 13 launch for Xbone are now irrelevant


In that list pretty much.... for instance releasing in Brazil (where you are from I believe) was/is way more relevant than Russia Imo... scandinavia/switzerland is totally irrelevant (sorry guys but that's just a realty, they might even lose money shipping and having customer support in some of those countries) the only 2 that might be are belgium and Netherlands but being not that big either and Sony camps already it shouldn't be a priority...

Being present in historically big gaming country is more important... they make money on attach rate and monetization of services and apps after.... so yeah big gaming countries that spend a lot or more money on game is the sweet spot....

 

I think so far both strategy (Sony/MS) makes perfect sense in regard to their historic brand recognition globally... especially if you believe in yield issues and think Sony produced 1 million more... this makes even more sense then...



endimion said:

In that list pretty much.... for instance releasing in Brazil (where you are from I believe) was/is way more relevant than Russia Imo... scandinavia/switzerland is totally irrelevant (sorry guys but that's just a realty, they might even lose money shipping and having customer support in some of those countries) the only 2 that might be are belgium and Netherlands but being not that big either and Sony camps already it shouldn't be a priority...

Being present in historically big gaming country is more important... they make money on attach rate and monetization of services and apps after.... so yeah big gaming countries that spend a lot or more money on game is the sweet spot....

 

I think so far both strategy (Sony/MS) makes perfect sense in regard to their historic brand recognition globally... especially if you believe in yield issues and think Sony produced 1 million more... this makes even more sense then...

I'm sure if MS have supply they will release in all 21 countries and no other will be delayed... even Japan could have a launch in early 2014.

They didn't have inventory to meet the launch in all these countries... there is no strategy or smart move from these delays.