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reask on 08 December 2013

I have went to several online sites such as amazon and the likes and they are totally out of stock on both.

I fail to understand why both companies would be so unprepared.
I am not getting one yet btw I was just curious.
Is it possible that they could be that stupid?
I mean one could say this is clever marketing by creating false demand but even that doesn't hold up in the real world.

Just thought I would put it out there as I am sure there are heads that visit the site who would know how this works.
I just find it totally bemusing tbh as they both knew the xmas market was upon us.

So stupidity or false shortage to create demand?
Your thoughts maybe.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-7UV-00080-Xbox-One-Console/dp/B00BE4OUBG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386532354&sr=8-1&keywords=xbox+one



 

 

 

 

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veritaz on 08 December 2013

It's not really stupid if you can't make enough to meet demand.



chapset on 08 December 2013

both had record breaking 1m+ launch, it's clearly possible they didn't expect them to sell that much



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Vertigo-X on 08 December 2013

Try waiting for the numbers; if they're pathetically low then we know there was artificial fixing of supplies.



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Soleron on 08 December 2013

1. It takes a very long time to ramp up electronics production. Like six months to a year from "final design" to peak mass production. They just launched early.

2. If you overestimate demand, you end up with warehouses full of unsold product costing you hundreds of millions of dollars. That's much worse than shortages.

3. This console launch has the most actual consoles available of anything new I can remember. More than Wii even. Exactly how were they meant to have more?



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reask on 08 December 2013

OK but I mean with the xmas market launch surely you would try and get production ramped up as much as possible?



 

 

 

 

DerNebel on 08 December 2013
reask said:
OK but I mean with the xmas market launch surely you would try and get production ramped up as much as possible?

And? Don't you think they're doing that?



reask on 08 December 2013
Soleron said:

1. It takes a very long time to ramp up electronics production. Like six months to a year from "final design" to peak mass production. They just launched early.

2. If you overestimate demand, you end up with warehouses full of unsold product costing you hundreds of millions of dollars. That's much worse than shortages.

3. This console launch has the most actual consoles available of anything new I can remember. More than Wii even. Exactly how were they meant to have more?


Ok then fair points and thanks for the explanation.



 

 

 

 

SvennoJ on 08 December 2013

No stupidity or false shortage, just simple economics at work.

It's the same as being overwhelmed in network traffic on launch day. It is not economically viable to build enough factories to meet initial demand and/or to postpone launch until you have warehouses full of consoles all over the world.



superhippy420 on 08 December 2013

You have to make sure that quality control is being done. If you rush out these systems and they start bricking or something, it could really hurt your company, and in Sony's case could end them. Playstation fans really need to support them this gen because Sony has been bleeding cash for years and the PS4 will be there last console if it doesn't bring them tons of money.