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iamdeath on 01 October 2013
kowenicki said:
NobleTeam360 said:

I hope this means a service similar to Gaikai on PS4. Although since MS is building this from the ground up I don't expect it anytime soon (2015? maybe)


Building from the ground up?

It's the other way around.  I simply dont see how Sony can have the infrastructure for a competent online service like this, if demand is very high.

MS unquestionably has the infrastructure and keeps on adding.  they announced about another $4bn spend on data centres in the last few months alone.

 

Sigh, Sony has more then enough infrastructure to support cloud gaming, Haikai works great. Any proof?

 

MS copying Sony confirmed.



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walsufnir on 01 October 2013
iamdeath said:
kowenicki said:
NobleTeam360 said:

I hope this means a service similar to Gaikai on PS4. Although since MS is building this from the ground up I don't expect it anytime soon (2015? maybe)


Building from the ground up?

It's the other way around.  I simply dont see how Sony can have the infrastructure for a competent online service like this, if demand is very high.

MS unquestionably has the infrastructure and keeps on adding.  they announced about another $4bn spend on data centres in the last few months alone.

 

Sigh, Sony has more then enough infrastructure to support cloud gaming, Haikai works great. Any proof?

 


Sigh, where can I test Gaikai now? The infrastructure is so ready and enough that it only starts in US first, in 2014. There are many open jobs on Gaikai homepage...



theprof00 on 01 October 2013
kowenicki said:
NobleTeam360 said:

I hope this means a service similar to Gaikai on PS4. Although since MS is building this from the ground up I don't expect it anytime soon (2015? maybe)


Building from the ground up?

It's the other way around.  I simply dont see how Sony can have the infrastructure for a competent online service like this, if demand is very high.

MS unquestionably has the infrastructure and keeps on adding.  they announced about another $4bn spend on data centres in the last few months alone.

 

Um because you don't need 500k dedicated servers to run gaming. MS knows, as should you, that xbox1 is simply a way of funding their cloud server. Sure they SAY they have all these servers...but you won't see the full potential of that. You'll see a fraction, because all you need is a fraction.



iamdeath on 01 October 2013
kowenicki said:
iamdeath said:
kowenicki said:
NobleTeam360 said:

I hope this means a service similar to Gaikai on PS4. Although since MS is building this from the ground up I don't expect it anytime soon (2015? maybe)


Building from the ground up?

It's the other way around.  I simply dont see how Sony can have the infrastructure for a competent online service like this, if demand is very high.

MS unquestionably has the infrastructure and keeps on adding.  they announced about another $4bn spend on data centres in the last few months alone.

 

Sigh, Sony has more then enough infrastructure to support cloud gaming, Haikai works great. Any proof?

 

MS copying Sony confirmed.

I assume you mean Gaikai?

It works great?  Any proof?  No... you have laboratory style demonstrations and light user experiences from pre Sony days.  Show me the proof of Gaika delivering to a tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of concurrent users in a coherent and effective experience...You can't.  YOu say So y has enough capacity?  how much do they have?  (Dont worry, I dont expect an answer, I know that you dont know and you just said it)

MS has far more infrastructure and capacity here, this isn't a weak point scoring exercise or an opinion, its just a big fat fact.  Amazon and MS are miles ahead of anyone else on this.

Now, you can hope Gaikai will work well and you can hope Sony has enough capacity... and they might.  But they dont have as much capacity as MS by a very very long way.

MS copying Sony...? So Sony invented game streaming and virtualisation now?  lmao.

 

Gaikai has been a well known commodity for a couple years, I have used it and yes, it works flawlessly.

 

Nothing is stopping Sony from investing or using a service that amazong provides. SM didn;t invent cloud services.

 

MS is copying sony by using a cloud sreaming tech for backwards compatibility. It is obvious MS never had it planned like Sony has, MS jumped when sony revealed it's plans thus MS is a lot further behind.



iamdeath on 01 October 2013
kowenicki said:
iamdeath said:
kowenicki said:
iamdeath said:

Sigh, Sony has more then enough infrastructure to support cloud gaming, Haikai works great. Any proof?

 

MS copying Sony confirmed.

I assume you mean Gaikai?

It works great?  Any proof?  No... you have laboratory style demonstrations and light user experiences from pre Sony days.  Show me the proof of Gaika delivering to a tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of concurrent users in a coherent and effective experience...You can't.  YOu say So y has enough capacity?  how much do they have?  (Dont worry, I dont expect an answer, I know that you dont know and you just said it)

MS has far more infrastructure and capacity here, this isn't a weak point scoring exercise or an opinion, its just a big fat fact.  Amazon and MS are miles ahead of anyone else on this.

Now, you can hope Gaikai will work well and you can hope Sony has enough capacity... and they might.  But they dont have as much capacity as MS by a very very long way.

MS copying Sony...? So Sony invented game streaming and virtualisation now?  lmao.

 

Gaikai has been a well known commodity for a couple years, I have used it and yes, it works flawlessly.

 

Nothing is stopping Sony from investing or using a service that amazong provides. SM didn;t invent cloud services.

 

MS is copying sony by using a cloud sreaming tech for backwards compatibility. It is obvious MS never had it planned like Sony has, MS jumped when sony revealed it's plans thus MS is a lot further behind.

1. I used Gaiaki too...  it wasn't what you just said it was, not even close.  Saying that it was flawless is disingenuous at best.  Gaikai never actually got going for one thing.

2. Nothing is stopping Sony from building or renting data space is correct.  But do they have it yet?

3. Its pretty obvious from the well publicised xbox road map that streaming services have been in mind for years from MS and xbox.

 

Pretty much every tech company has had streaming and cluoud in their road map including Sony....They said years ago cloud and streaming is the future.....

 

Gaikai was by far the best streamign service when sony bought it, and how well it worked is well publicized. Don't know what you used, but it worked flawlessly, even streamign to tablets worked great (Crysis worked smooth).

 

Do you know what sony has?

 

Ms having mroe is really irrelevant. Each company is using the service for different purposes. Much of Ms cloud is going towards windows and other business services, not xbox at all.  Sony will have mroe then enough for what they need, there won't be any difference to the consumer if one has mroe infrastructure then the other.



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iamdeath on 01 October 2013
kowenicki said:
iamdeath said:
kowenicki said:
iamdeath said:
kowenicki said:
iamdeath said:

Sigh, Sony has more then enough infrastructure to support cloud gaming, Haikai works great. Any proof?

 

MS copying Sony confirmed.

I assume you mean Gaikai?

It works great?  Any proof?  No... you have laboratory style demonstrations and light user experiences from pre Sony days.  Show me the proof of Gaika delivering to a tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of concurrent users in a coherent and effective experience...You can't.  YOu say So y has enough capacity?  how much do they have?  (Dont worry, I dont expect an answer, I know that you dont know and you just said it)

MS has far more infrastructure and capacity here, this isn't a weak point scoring exercise or an opinion, its just a big fat fact.  Amazon and MS are miles ahead of anyone else on this.

Now, you can hope Gaikai will work well and you can hope Sony has enough capacity... and they might.  But they dont have as much capacity as MS by a very very long way.

MS copying Sony...? So Sony invented game streaming and virtualisation now?  lmao.

 

Gaikai has been a well known commodity for a couple years, I have used it and yes, it works flawlessly.

 

Nothing is stopping Sony from investing or using a service that amazong provides. SM didn;t invent cloud services.

 

MS is copying sony by using a cloud sreaming tech for backwards compatibility. It is obvious MS never had it planned like Sony has, MS jumped when sony revealed it's plans thus MS is a lot further behind.

1. I used Gaiaki too...  it wasn't what you just said it was, not even close.  Saying that it was flawless is disingenuous at best.  Gaikai never actually got going for one thing.

2. Nothing is stopping Sony from building or renting data space is correct.  But do they have it yet?

3. Its pretty obvious from the well publicised xbox road map that streaming services have been in mind for years from MS and xbox.

 

Pretty much every tech company has had streaming and cluoud in their road map including Sony....They said years ago cloud and streaming is the future.....

 

Gaikai was by far the best streamign service when sony bought it, and how well it worked is well publicized. Don't know what you used, but it worked flawlessly, even streamign to tablets worked great (Crysis worked smooth).

 

Do you know what sony has?

 

Ms having mroe is really irrelevant. Each company is using the service for different purposes. Much of Ms cloud is going towards windows and other business services, not xbox at all.  Sony will have mroe then enough for what they need, there won't be any difference to the consumer if one has mroe infrastructure then the other.

Well the proof of the pudding..... I guess we will have to wait and see.

Sony will need to have substantially upped their capacity.  It is not exactly a secret that their current offering isnt the best.  Tried browsing PSN store recently?

Gaikai recommended 5mbps (would "work" with 3mbps) and if you believe that Gaikai is about to lauch with a flawless and efficient service then I would suggest you are being very optimistic.   There are many reasons why they are only launching in the US with no fixed timescales for elsewhere, capacity will be one of them for sure.

 

?? PSN store works fine......... There is really no difference between using live and PSN, other the cross game chat which will change Nov 15th. If ther eis a small difference in taking an extra minute to dl somethign, no one will notice.



iamdeath on 01 October 2013
walsufnir said:
iamdeath said:
kowenicki said:
NobleTeam360 said:

I hope this means a service similar to Gaikai on PS4. Although since MS is building this from the ground up I don't expect it anytime soon (2015? maybe)


Building from the ground up?

It's the other way around.  I simply dont see how Sony can have the infrastructure for a competent online service like this, if demand is very high.

MS unquestionably has the infrastructure and keeps on adding.  they announced about another $4bn spend on data centres in the last few months alone.

 

Sigh, Sony has more then enough infrastructure to support cloud gaming, Haikai works great. Any proof?

 


Sigh, where can I test Gaikai now? The infrastructure is so ready and enough that it only starts in US first, in 2014. There are many open jobs on Gaikai homepage...

MS is even further out, does that mean MS has even Less??? Sony just bought gaikai and integrating it into the playstation ecosystem..........Gaikai worked fine before Sony bought them. Google is your friend.



iamdeath on 01 October 2013
theprof00 said:
kowenicki said:
NobleTeam360 said:

I hope this means a service similar to Gaikai on PS4. Although since MS is building this from the ground up I don't expect it anytime soon (2015? maybe)


Building from the ground up?

It's the other way around.  I simply dont see how Sony can have the infrastructure for a competent online service like this, if demand is very high.

MS unquestionably has the infrastructure and keeps on adding.  they announced about another $4bn spend on data centres in the last few months alone.

 

Um because you don't need 500k dedicated servers to run gaming. MS knows, as should you, that xbox1 is simply a way of funding their cloud server. Sure they SAY they have all these servers...but you won't see the full potential of that. You'll see a fraction, because all you need is a fraction.

Exactly.............MS is puilling to wool over peoples eyes again, Xbox is such a small part of MS business only a fraction of their cloud will evr be used for xbox.



walsufnir on 01 October 2013
iamdeath said:
walsufnir said:
iamdeath said:
kowenicki said:
NobleTeam360 said:

I hope this means a service similar to Gaikai on PS4. Although since MS is building this from the ground up I don't expect it anytime soon (2015? maybe)


Building from the ground up?

It's the other way around.  I simply dont see how Sony can have the infrastructure for a competent online service like this, if demand is very high.

MS unquestionably has the infrastructure and keeps on adding.  they announced about another $4bn spend on data centres in the last few months alone.

 

Sigh, Sony has more then enough infrastructure to support cloud gaming, Haikai works great. Any proof?

 


Sigh, where can I test Gaikai now? The infrastructure is so ready and enough that it only starts in US first, in 2014. There are many open jobs on Gaikai homepage...

MS is even further out, does that mean MS has even Less??? Sony just bought gaikai and integrating it into the playstation ecosystem..........Gaikai worked fine before Sony bought them. Google is your friend.

 

"Just bought"? Oh man... But I read your posts with kowen, so I don't need to talk to you anymore. You behave like in every other thread. Good bye.



iamdeath on 01 October 2013
walsufnir said:
iamdeath said:
walsufnir said:
iamdeath said:
kowenicki said:
NobleTeam360 said:

I hope this means a service similar to Gaikai on PS4. Although since MS is building this from the ground up I don't expect it anytime soon (2015? maybe)


Building from the ground up?

It's the other way around.  I simply dont see how Sony can have the infrastructure for a competent online service like this, if demand is very high.

MS unquestionably has the infrastructure and keeps on adding.  they announced about another $4bn spend on data centres in the last few months alone.

 

Sigh, Sony has more then enough infrastructure to support cloud gaming, Haikai works great. Any proof?

 


Sigh, where can I test Gaikai now? The infrastructure is so ready and enough that it only starts in US first, in 2014. There are many open jobs on Gaikai homepage...

MS is even further out, does that mean MS has even Less??? Sony just bought gaikai and integrating it into the playstation ecosystem..........Gaikai worked fine before Sony bought them. Google is your friend.

 

"Just bought"? Oh man... But I read your posts with kowen, so I don't need to talk to you anymore. You behave like in every other thread. Good bye.

If MS has so much infrastructure, why is their streamign service even further behind??? It takes time,. you clearly know nothing about technology. This is complex tech, and yes, Sony only just bought gaikai a year is not much time to integrate something like this as well as getting the titles up and available.