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Will good holiday 2013 sales from the Wii U help bring 3rd party games to the system next year?

Yes. The Wii U will sell well this holiday.
No. The Wii U won't sell well.
It doesn't matter if the Wii U sells well. It's too weak.
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It's no surprise that the Wii U is currently missing out on some amazing 3rd party multiplats that the next gen and even current gen consoles are getting. That being said, the Wii U's third party line up, at least compared to next gen consoles, is surprisingly saturated this holiday. More specifucally, the Wii U is getting every third party multiplat being released this holiday on next gen consoles except for anything published by EA.

Now opinions about EA aside, not getting those EA titles really hurts the Wii U. Battlefeild sells. Fifa and Madden sell. However, with such strong support from the other publishers, the Wii U is already in a better position than the original Wii was. Any Wii-only gamer this past gen could tell you this.

To add to this, the Wii U has finally started picking up sales momentum. Starting with Pikmin, the Wii U's first party and exclusive line up for this holiday is not unimpressive. Nintendo said they'd have key exclusive titles for the Wii U all through the holiday, and they weren't lying. With a strong-ish 3rd party line up and a stronger first party line up, especially sales wise, it's fair to assume that the Wii U's momentum will pick up even further through out the holiday, even in the wake of two console launches.

Unfortunately, 2014 doesn't look nearly as bright. Although the Wii U's first party line up for next year is nothing short of astounding, it's 3rd party line up... Well frankly, there is none. No multiplats at least. I'm hyperbolizing here, but the point remains painfully clear. As it is now, Wii U only gamers will miss out on The Crew, The Division, Destiny, The Witcher 3. Even Final Fantasy XV and Kingdom Hearts III will skip the Nintendo console.

While all may seem doom and gloom at first glance, there are things to note. Both Activision and Ubisoft are looking at their Wii U holiday 2013 support as an investment, and they're right to do it. The Wii U would be in a far more dire situation without them, and that would only dampen both companies' potencial revenue in the future. Publishers are providing the Wii U with strong support now with the hopes that it will drive first party and in turn rekindle the Wii U's momentum, earning them an extra platform to recieve revenue from in the future.

Ubisoft has already stated that it is taking a wait and see approach to Wii U support, implying that if this holiday goes well, we'll see those Ubisoft titles on the Wii U.

The same can be read from Activision's comments. By supporting the Wii U now, they are hoping this investment will pay off in the future with a larger install base to publish their games on.

Even with EA, their comments have made it clear that though they are skipping the Wii U this year, they are waiting on sales numbers to determine how much (quality) support they intend to give the Wii U in the future.

I think it's very clear that the Wii U will have a successful holiday from a hardware and first party sales perspective. However, how 3rd party games will sell is far more dubious. Of course many Wii U owners here on VGC will be purchasing multiplats on the Wii U, but will the masses?

Basically, my question is this: How well do you think 3rd party multiplats will sell on the Wii U this holiday, and how do you see this changing the Wii U's 2014 third party line up? Will it get better, or will it get worse? Will third parties begin to flock, or will they flee?

I have no doubt that Ubisoft and Activision are making their announced next gen games with the Wii U very much in mind, however, I also have no trouble believing that they'd be willing to drop the Wii U at the drop of a hat if the Wii U doesn't have a successful holiday season. Will this happen, or is the Wii U's future finally looking bright? Personally, I think so. Let me know what you all think, though. Let's have a friendly discussion. :)



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they will get less and less i think. most publishers wont bother downgrading their games (visually, physics) and trying to port the game to the WiiU. the PS4/X1/PC market seems like it will be the place to go to for third parties this gen.

Bet With Zero: He says WiiU and XB1 gap will be higher than 1.9M by end of 2014, i say it will grow smaller or vanish. 

Bet with Pezus: i win if Watch dogs sells more on PS3+360  than on next gen PS4 + Xbox One. winner gets 1 month sig control

Bet With JoeTheBro: He says WiiU in Jan 2013 > XB1 Jan 2014, i say the opposite.

Batman should sell well based on the fanbase the Wii U has. Lego Marvel Super Heroes as well. I'm not so sure about Ghosts or Assassin's Creed. They should do better than the first ones obviously, but I don't know what Activision's expectations are. I think they could sell like 300-500k by years end, but I don't know if that'll be enough.

Sonic and Scribblenauts should both sell well. Exclusive to Wii U with broad appeal. Skylanders and Disney Infinity will do OK but Wii availability will hurt those sales.



It's not the most popular opinion but I really think this winter will be the last of any meaningful third party support. Ubisoft might offer up the odd Just Dance but I think that's all we'll see from here on.

I voted for the funny option.

I hope for at least 4-5 third party exclusives that come out in NA (like Tales of Symphonia, Muramasa, Tatsunoko VS Capcom) but other than that nope.



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bananaking21 said:
they will get less and less i think. most publishers wont bother downgrading their games (visually, physics) and trying to port the game to the WiiU.

They aren't downgrading from PS3/Xbox360 to the WiiU now, why would they downgrade from PS4/X1?



I do find it a little funny that 4-player Mario platformer couldn't sell the Wii U last year, but this year, apparently with no price cut, another 4-player Mario platformer is somehow going to cause Wii U sales to skyrocket.

The system needs a lot more variety (and thats including the games it has coming out this holiday) than just a bunch of platformers. Mario Kart 8 this holiday would've been much more ideal over Mario 3D World as the biggest title.

At $350 IMO this is a speciality item for hardcore Nintendo fanatics only.

Budget shoppers/parents/kids (groups that Nintendo usually has a chance with) will opt for the cheaper PS3/360 that have a far better library and a full roster of budget priced games.

That or the 3DS IMO which has more Nintendo franchises on it and costs far less.

Hardcore players aren't going to bite on the Wii U, they will ride out their PS3/360 until the PS4/XB1 become more affordable or appealling to those who aren't early adopters.

I'm just not seeing where the target audience for a $350 Nintendo console is. It definitely isn't the yuppie/casual crowd, they have the money to spend, but aren't going to spend it on "asymetric gaming". Their dollars are going to a new smartphone or tablet.



Sales don't matter, so no.

EDIT: Saw the poll, hardware doesn't matter either.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

Weak online gaming, the lack of a cloud computing platform, and the small amount of RAM in the Wii U have doomed it..

For living room consoles, Nintendo should fold the tents and go home...

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bananaking21 said:
they will get less and less i think. most publishers wont bother downgrading their games (visually, physics) and trying to port the game to the WiiU. the PS4/X1/PC market seems like it will be the place to go to for third parties this gen.


Yes because the PS2 was more powerful than the Xbox



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