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Is Sony Taking Back The US and UK?

Hell Yea! 312 62.15%
 
Hell No! MS Will Win Them Again. 53 10.56%
 
Yes To US, But No To UK. 7 1.39%
 
Yes To UK, But No To US. 57 11.35%
 
See Results. 73 14.54%
 
Total:502
nightsurge said:
thismeintiel said:
VGKing said:
Yeah I think launch sales will certainly favor PS4, although that may be mainly due to supply issues with Xbox One. I think that supply issue will hurt it though. The console that sells the most will get the most word of mouth through internet articles, social media and of course real life conversations. Here's hoping Sony takes advantage of Microsofts supply constraints and PS4 not only has a successful launch but a successful first year.

I do think supply will play a part right after launch.  However, it doesn't seem to be playing that big of one, yet.  I mean the PS4 launch bundle was sold out within a day or two on Amazon, while the Xbox One just sold out this past Wednesday.  Even with limited supply, the Xbox One is still available at Gamestop, while the PS4 (which according to the memo has much greater supply) is already sold out online.  I think MS has hurt themselves more than they, and their fans, will admit.  Plus, the $100 difference doesn't help. 

This is a bit inaccurate.

The Xbox One and PS4 launch/day one editions have sold out on Amazon multiple times, because they would get a higher allotment and re-open them. At least that is what happened with the Xbox One day one edition.

Up until today, the Xbox One Day 1 Edition was vastly outpacing the PS4, and was at the top 1-5 spots for several weeks. It appears to have dropped sharply after they sold out this last time.

Xbox One's have been "sold out" at Gamestop stores for ages now. Only online orders have been available. While the PS4 just recently sold out of stores/online. I do not know why the Xbox One would still be available online and the PS4 wouldn't. Perhaps MS still haven't given firm allotment numbers/production estimates.

It was outpacing it in the Best Sellers for the hour, partly due to the PS4 having multiple SKUs.  But, in the best sellers for the entire year, the launch edition PS4 quickly rose up to #3 and has stayed there.

I highly doubt that the Xbox has done a complete reverse of the PS4 at Gamestop, selling out in stores before selling out online instead of selling out online, first.  You may mean that the Xbox has sold out in the stores near you, but I doubt its across ALL stores when they are still available online.



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MB1025 said:
007BondAgent said:
This was obviously going to happen, the reason the 360 did so well in north America was it's price

nothing more


That's BS and nothing more.


I agree, the xbox is still outselling the ps3 in the us and they have the same price. Every generation is different and who knows what will happen in 3-4 years



thismeintiel said:
nightsurge said:
thismeintiel said:
VGKing said:
Yeah I think launch sales will certainly favor PS4, although that may be mainly due to supply issues with Xbox One. I think that supply issue will hurt it though. The console that sells the most will get the most word of mouth through internet articles, social media and of course real life conversations. Here's hoping Sony takes advantage of Microsofts supply constraints and PS4 not only has a successful launch but a successful first year.

I do think supply will play a part right after launch.  However, it doesn't seem to be playing that big of one, yet.  I mean the PS4 launch bundle was sold out within a day or two on Amazon, while the Xbox One just sold out this past Wednesday.  Even with limited supply, the Xbox One is still available at Gamestop, while the PS4 (which according to the memo has much greater supply) is already sold out online.  I think MS has hurt themselves more than they, and their fans, will admit.  Plus, the $100 difference doesn't help. 

This is a bit inaccurate.

The Xbox One and PS4 launch/day one editions have sold out on Amazon multiple times, because they would get a higher allotment and re-open them. At least that is what happened with the Xbox One day one edition.

Up until today, the Xbox One Day 1 Edition was vastly outpacing the PS4, and was at the top 1-5 spots for several weeks. It appears to have dropped sharply after they sold out this last time.

Xbox One's have been "sold out" at Gamestop stores for ages now. Only online orders have been available. While the PS4 just recently sold out of stores/online. I do not know why the Xbox One would still be available online and the PS4 wouldn't. Perhaps MS still haven't given firm allotment numbers/production estimates.

It was outpacing it in the Best Sellers for the hour, partly due to the PS4 having multiple SKUs.  But, in the best sellers for the entire year, the launch edition PS4 quickly rose up to #3 and has stayed there.

I highly doubt that the Xbox has done a complete reverse of the PS4 at Gamestop, selling out in stores before selling out online instead of selling out online, first.  You may mean that the Xbox has sold out in the stores near you, but I doubt its across ALL stores when they are still available online.

It was all over the internet. Xbox One's were selling out everywhere in stores but Gamestop online still had them for pre-order. That's pretty much remained the case this whole time. They get a few more for stores, they quickly sell out, yet online is still available.

I don't know why, but I can definitely say this is more than just "my area" and based on the internet, it would seem to be fairly wide spread if not nation wide.



you see microsoft...sony was not even trying to sell ps3....and they still won world wide sales...its one of sony tactics they done before....they did with sega and nintendo....and its was to let a competitor to win some and then lose at the end...thus that brought the challenged to sony...then sony released the ps2 a finishing move to destroy competition that's when they get serious to sell............ps4 could be the next ps2 monster....BEWARE OF 154 million psn users

microsoft you are no match against a experience entertainment company like sony... and you don't understand what is fun and entertainment.....go back make office and windows better....



007BondAgent said:
MB1025 said:
007BondAgent said:
This was obviously going to happen, the reason the 360 did so well in north America was it's price

nothing more


That's BS and nothing more.

Really? i'm pretty sure price sells a system more then anything

Not true. A good marketing strategy is probably the biggest proponents of device sales. Price certainly helps but it is far from the deciding factor of a sale.

After all; if what you said was true then why was the average selling price of the 360 higher than the PS3 in 2011 (and assumably the years following that since the PS3 got price cuts whilst the 360 got none).

http://www.destructoid.com/npd-even-at-a-higher-price-xbox-360-outsells-ps3-213866.phtml



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What sold the 360 in the US wasn't so much price or features- it was the year head start in a new generation.. Games felt so new and the jump from the previous generation was a sharp one unlike the wiiU. Then once people saw the new generation, there was no competition for an entire year, that flow of friends wanting to play online together is what sealed the US market for Microsoft this generation.
None of that matters now though, Sony has worked itself back and seems to have turned the tables on Microsoft. This will be the counter punch by Sony.

To those claiming the Xbone has sold out more online, you seem to only be seeing what you want to see.. The PS4 has..what- 5, 6, or 7 different bundles to choose from? These were all organized by retailers too, because of the price disparity between the two consoles. 1 single available item online will sell out faster than the several different allotments of PS4's which have been organized.
I admit it isn't 100% clear, but every forum on the web and every conversation I've heard says PS4 is comfortably ahead as the OP suggests.

Come on!, if you we're betting, given the facts we know, you would all surely assume the PS4 has more preorders in all territories, right?



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yo_john117 said:
007BondAgent said:
MB1025 said:
007BondAgent said:
This was obviously going to happen, the reason the 360 did so well in north America was it's price

nothing more


That's BS and nothing more.

Really? i'm pretty sure price sells a system more then anything

Not true. A good marketing strategy is probably the biggest proponents of device sales. Price certainly helps but it is far from the deciding factor of a sale.

After all; if what you said was true then why was the average selling price of the 360 higher than the PS3 in 2011 (and assumably the years following that since the PS3 got price cuts whilst the 360 got none).

http://www.destructoid.com/npd-even-at-a-higher-price-xbox-360-outsells-ps3-213866.phtml

Speaking of average prices is really just ridiculous.  What matters is the entry price when people are really focusing on price.  Which is going to be a bigger factor when the gap is larger than $50, or the paltry $35 that article suggests.



FiliusDei said:
MB1025 said:
007BondAgent said:
This was obviously going to happen, the reason the 360 did so well in north America was it's price

nothing more


That's BS and nothing more.


I agree, the xbox is still outselling the ps3 in the us and they have the same price. Every generation is different and who knows what will happen in 3-4 years

They have never had the same price though. X360 was $199.99 for the last 5 years. They even sold it with a 100 dollar gift card which effectively gave it away for 99 dollars over the years for the holidays. PS3 was $199.99 on Black Friday only and besides that was never lower then $249.99 and then went through an odd price increase to $269.99 last year.



Blood_Tears said:
FiliusDei said:
MB1025 said:
007BondAgent said:
This was obviously going to happen, the reason the 360 did so well in north America was it's price

nothing more


That's BS and nothing more.


I agree, the xbox is still outselling the ps3 in the us and they have the same price. Every generation is different and who knows what will happen in 3-4 years

They have never had the same price though. X360 was $199.99 for the last 5 years. They even sold it with a 100 dollar gift card which effectively gave it away for 99 dollars over the years for the holidays. PS3 was $199.99 on Black Friday only and besides that was never lower then $249.99 and then went through an odd price increase to $269.99 last year.

You're right, i did not know about that. I always buy at the start of the generation so I was mistaken about the price drops.



007BondAgent said:

Really? i'm pretty sure price sells a system more then anything

Wi U to win this gen confirmed.

Well I guess that means the XB1 DRM reversal was key to getting support. Pretty impressive of MS to sell out of pre-orders even at $100 more.

Launch isn't going to mean much regardless now that things are selling out. March and April and the months after sales will be more telling.



It's just that simple.