12-11-13 (US)

19-11-13 (EU)

10-12-13 (JP)

Price be $449-$499 on two tier HDD SKUs (500GB and 1TB)

1TB HDD for Notebook (2.5") is already popular?

I had orders to be bold. 

I think there's only going to be one hard drive size at the start and the eye will be included in every box. Then there will be a vita bundle and maybe a VR bundle if they announce the HMD they are working on.

LOL (orders)

I don't see it happening, but for some reason, I too am leaning towards believing that Sony will do the 1TB HDD. If they don't include it themselves, then it will be upgradeable to one. As much as I think they should include 1TB, I don't think they will (on account of trying to keep the cost down). It will be the standard 250GB or 500GB.

You think HMD already? It has to be out next year so they can match Microsoft, but for launch? That seems quite ambitious, given there haven't been any leaks hinting at it.

it will release before call of duty.

price min will be 399. max will be 449.

so basically, i think it will be either of the two.

They won't release in August.  I don't think any console has released in August.  They'd have nothing but their first party stuff because 3rd parties wait till September (normally October) to start the bulk of their releases.  I think we should hope for October.  That's when PS2 launched and it helps to get the early wave out of the way before BF gobbles up another gazillion units.  If you release the week before you get more demand than you have supply which isn't great because you're missing out on holiday or early adopter sales.  Get the initial wave out of the way in October.  September would be great and there's an outside chance.  I think PS1 released in September so it's not out of the question.

I'll take a crack at the pricing for the PS4 (hell for fun).

1. $374.94 for a slower sku with 1 controller, 1 month free PS+

2. $494.94 for a midrange sku with 1 controller, move, larger hardrive, 1 month free PS+

3. $644.94 for a backwards Backwards compatible sku with 2 controllers, move, same hardrive as 2nd sku, 1 month free PS+ (released as a limited release sku that will only have certain number in production for the first year, and then it will dissappear forever.)

Date: A mid October release date. Hopefully both MS & Sony consoles release on the same day.

Edit; wanted to add the limited comment on 3rd sku.

this makes sense though I'd like October (see above post).