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think-man said:

Final Fantasy is disappointing me.

Wheres a Yokai comparison?

Last time I saw it YW2 almost doubled YW3. Which should have reached it by now. 



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horuhe said:
hiska-kun said:

I just realized that there're just 14 Comg stores at the moment opened (they were 16 stores when this thread was made, and I'm not sure if they were more before). That means that at least two stores have closed since then, and that's something that can explain why the ratio is better now than before, since less stores are being tracked.

Since 2013, I've been living in Japan and I've seen like 4-5 game stores closing so far, and some others just reduced its space on shelves and they're placing different products instead (smartphones or toys). That really tells you how the japanese game market is dying, and everyday it passes there're less and less game stores.

I don't know if I commented this before but there was, at least, one COMG! store out of Niigata prefecture, in Ishikawa if I recall correctly.

The interesting thing is that reading your comment, I immediately asked about that store if it could possibly also be closed, and I was told it is still open. But, yeah. I think it's kinda depressing this situation all around.

Even if there's one other store outside Niigata prefecture, it's not been tracked on this ranking. The stores tracked are the next 14, all of them in Niigata.

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Farsala said:
hiska-kun said:

I just realized that there're just 14 Comg stores at the moment opened (they were 16 stores when this thread was made, and I'm not sure if they were more before). That means that at least two stores have closed since then, and that's something that can explain why the ratio is better now than before, since less stores are being tracked.

Since 2013, I've been living in Japan and I've seen like 4-5 game stores closing so far, and some others just reduced its space on shelves and they're placing different products instead (smartphones or toys). That really tells you how the japanese game market is dying, and everyday it passes there're less and less game stores.

The closing of retail stores also correlate with higher digital sales. Not many benefit from digital, but I am afraid it will turn out much like the music industry. With physical becoming more niche.

No. There's a graph from Famitsu & Media Create, that even adding digital sales the japanese market is shrinking. I'm not at home now, if I find it I'll post it later.



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hiska-kun said:
Farsala said:

The closing of retail stores also correlate with higher digital sales. Not many benefit from digital, but I am afraid it will turn out much like the music industry. With physical becoming more niche.

No. There's a graph from Famitsu & Media Create, that even adding digital sales the japanese market is shrinking. I'm not at home now, if I find it I'll post it later.

I realize it is smaller, but retail stores collapsing isn't solely due to the market, digital sales take away a lot from these retail exclusive stores like COMG!

For example: Gamestop is putting more of their focus into Publishing rather then be an entirely retail store.



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hiska-kun said:

I just realized that there're just 14 Comg stores at the moment opened (they were 16 stores when this thread was made, and I'm not sure if they were more before). That means that at least two stores have closed since then, and that's something that can explain why the ratio is better now than before, since less stores are being tracked.

Since 2013, I've been living in Japan and I've seen like 4-5 game stores closing so far, and some others just reduced its space on shelves and they're placing different products instead (smartphones or toys). That really tells you how the japanese game market is dying, and everyday it passes there're less and less game stores.

That would certainly explain some things. I know that physical game chains in the states have really died down and many have started switching merchandise focus or closing down.



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Farsala said:
hiska-kun said:

No. There's a graph from Famitsu & Media Create, that even adding digital sales the japanese market is shrinking. I'm not at home now, if I find it I'll post it later.

I realize it is smaller, but retail stores collapsing isn't solely due to the market, digital sales take away a lot from these retail exclusive stores like COMG!

For example: Gamestop is putting more of their focus into Publishing rather then be an entirely retail store.

Digital sales in Japan aren't that big than in the west. In Japan there're still some cultural factors than makes japanese people to choose retail over digital. The example than you gave before, the music CD, are still a strong market in Japan. For example Tsutaya is a DVD and CD store, that also sells games, but the main business are DVDs (and blue-ray) and CDs, games come after.

One of the reason of the strong retail market is because the used market takes a big role in Japan. A lot of people tends to sell their games when they finished, and use the money earned to buy the next one. 

The times that we see high digital ratios of japanese games, most of the times have strong reasons behind. The two more important are:

- Online play focused games. If the game is going to be played mostly online and also there's the intention of purchase extras online, it could be more convenient to buy the game digital.

- Stock problems, high retail sell-through. Obviously if a person can't find a copy of the game at stores, instead of waiting for new shipments, there's the digital version as an option. Games with high sell-through tend to have better digital ratios.

If course digital sales will keep growing, in Japan too. But the main reason of the contraction isn't digital, and the effect they have is still low.



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Jranation said:
think-man said:

Final Fantasy is disappointing me.

Wheres a Yokai comparison?

Last time I saw it YW2 almost doubled YW3. Which should have reached it by now. 

Thats crazy, maybe its peaked.



think-man said:
Jranation said:

Last time I saw it YW2 almost doubled YW3. Which should have reached it by now. 

Thats crazy, maybe its peaked.

I got ridiculed for saying this a while back before it fell behind on the comparison.  I said the graph was cause for concern because it was too flat but people said but it's still ahead.  

 

Hopefully it and FF pick up steam but it's really worrying for YW right now. 

 

Anyway another shit day.  At least Persona and tales moved for me.