Forums - General Discussion - Does this not justify belief in a God...

Don't usually talk about this stuff, but when I think about it, if you go back far enough and don't get bogged down in the details, surely there are only 3 main options concerning the beginning of the universe/life/etc.

(Option 1) - A God has always existed, and decided to create the universe, or at least created a system of nature through which the universe could be created.

(Option 2) - That the laws of nature/particles etc have always existed and led to the creation of the universe. 

(Option 3) - Something else happened that the human mind can't comprehend.

And then I think, surely option 1 is the most likely? 

Thoughts...



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How could a God be created? What is it's beginning?



Then your solving the question with another question.

Where did they god come from? How was it created?

Option 2 seems pretty sound... the best of these 3 options anyways. ..

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Option 1 is the least likely. What is a god? Where did the concept of a god come from? Is it that difficult to understand that God is nothing more than a creation of the human mind?

Option 3 is sort of the most likely. We just dont know yet. Since there is nothing we can see past the big bang, we dont know whats beyond that.

If you ask me, what makes sense is that the universe/s are chaos. Randomness, existance and non-existance, something and nothing. At one point one of these tilted over just so slightly and it led to the creation of the universe. Once matter existed, the so called laws of the universe or the laws that tell us how objects interact with each other came into play.

The details are always just something we must ponder upon, but i can garantee you that a "God" in the way we humans imagined it is certainly not responsible for it. That much is certain.



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Why can't people live without the idea of intelligent creation? Why can't people accept the universe as a place of logic where everything simply reacts to each other? The universe doesn't need a god to function.



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The only reason there is a religion (any), is because people back when they were invented couldn't come up with a better way to explain our existence. They didn't have science, they couldn't explain anything, they couldn't prove anything.

In today's age, with numerous ways to prove all kinds of things, I don't see how the simple answer of 'something just made everything, for the fun of it', is in any way the most likely way to explain our existence. Let alone having to explain how that 'something' came into existence and gained self-concience itself in the first place. That said, I also don't believe mankind today has all the answers figured out, and we probably never will. For now, option 2 is by far the most likely, with a hint of option 3.

S.Peelman said:
The only reason there is a religion (any), is because people back when they were invented couldn't come up with a better way to explain our existence. They didn't have science, they couldn't explain anything, they couldn't prove anything.

In today's age, with numerous ways to prove all kinds of things, I don't see how the simple answer of 'something just made everything, for the fun of it', is in any way the most likely way to explain our existence. Let alone having to explain how that 'something' came into existence and gained self-concience itself in the first place. That said, I also don't believe mankind today has all the answers figured out, and we probably never will. For now, option 2 is by far the most likely, with a hint of option 3.

Yup people are afraid of the unknown. And what better way to deal with that then create an entity that doesn't just explain things but watches over us aswell? I really think it's the ''watching over'' part that makes religion appeal to so many people, since it gives meaning to their lives and kind of paints a line of good and evil.



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before I worship a god that might have existed somewhere to start off the universe I'd rather worship our sun, our earth, nature and our water



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The most likely scenario is that an intelligent, rational, creative being existed, by itself, without any kind of evolution or outside stimuli? Incredibly, unimaginably complex, floating in a void? Sorry, I just can't understand that as being a likely possibility, or at least any more likely than anything else someone could dream up.