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Fuse will be among the biggest flops of the generation. I feel embarrassed for the Insomniac's sake How can they not see it themselves? It's gonna flop and flop so hard. That speaks of their incompetence and the publisher executives who greenlighted it.



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At least Fuse looks a lot better than Haze. That game was crap.



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Turkish said:
I disagree, Haze atleast had some hype, people were talking about it. Fuse, how bad it may be, no one's talking about it.


this atleast some us actually went out and bought that game due to hype, this game i just keep forgetting exists which is not good at all



A few years ago there was a big rush by EA (and other publishers) to sign up some of the big name developers on deals where the develoeprs retain the rights to the IP. It made EA still a key part as publishers but weakened their strength on the IP and gave develoeprs more strength.

I think what has happened is EA gave Insomniac this deal, but have since decided 1) they want to scale back their development budgets to less games of 'bigger' impact 2) They want control of the IP's again. They've gone into a deal with Insomniac but now backed out before they've launched it - they're still contractually obligated to get it out but have no real interest in making it a hit as it no longer fits their company wide goal.

Fuze will be sent to die, most likely with some other EA IP's, as they look to concentrate their focus to fewer but bigger IP's. I think EA will step back from backing games like Crysis, Medal of Honor and SSX in the future in order to focus on the behemoths - FIFA, Battlefield, Madden. Their change of heart has come during Fuze's development - and I think there could be a lot of fallout from this over the year once the game comes out and bombs. I don't think Insomniac will crumble like Free Radical - as I think they're run sensibly enough to prevent that. And I reckon Sony will bail them out if needed.



I don't understand how Insomniac made this game and didn't decide to cancel it halfway through.



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EA... what did you do?!



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Max King of the Wild said:
Dodece said:

I don't care how much you bellyache about it you probably aren't going to get Insomniac back as a exclusive second party developer. Being a fan of a console brand doesn't mean that you cannot be a fan of a third party studio. In this case they are hardly exclusive. All of this smearing and denigrating of the studio is just plain petty. Basically a lot of you are so bitter that you cannot have a studio all to yourselves anymore. That you would rather see it burn down to the ground.

This game isn't a repeat of the Haze fiasco. Which itself wouldn't have been any kind of fiasco. If certain people were not mindlessly bent on hyping that game beyond all proportions. The only thing noteworthy about that title was that it was exclusive to the PS3 at a time when the console was bereft of any noteworthy exclusives, and it was not getting much in the way of great third party support.

I honestly don't think that Insomniac was looking at Fuse being a massive success. There is nothing that says it has to be, and to be honest the game doesn't actually look bad. It looks fairly straight forward, and something being simple isn't a bad thing. There is a market for simple fun shooters, and if you doubt that look at Left 4 Dead. That game wasn't overly complicated, or all that visually stunning.

Some games aren't trying to go the high end route. That is what Haze was trying to be, and as such it ended up killing the company with production costs. It is fundamentally easy to judge high end efforts, but low end efforts. Now that is a entirely different beast. Not only can they be successful with lower sales, but sometimes they just click with the consumer.

Personally I actually planned to pick up the game. It looked to be a nice change of pace. I am starting to get a little tired of over the top shooters right now. I could use some old school charm. With Electronic Arts publishing though I am not too sure. I really don't want to give that publisher any more of my money.



I won't spend much time with this nonsense so here I go

1. I'm not bellyaching because they aren't second party (even though that's yet to be seen) the game looks boring and it's the general consensus everywhere I look.

2. Insomniac PAX time slot is titled: “Fuse: The Sleeper Hit of 2013” they are looking for it to be a big hit

3. It's not straight forward. Everything I read (even from Insomniac themselves) this game is too difficult because they AI isn't smart enough and the game relies heavily on co-op communication

4. This probably has a bigger budget than Haze lol

1. How is that not determined, and how is your saying what you said not proving my point. Second parties develop exclusively for a particular platform, or brand of platforms. The fact that they aren't do that now is proof they are third party. No further proof is required. Obviously you cannot even deal with the reality of what happened.

2. The 239th rule of acquisition comes to mind. Never be afraid to mislabel a product. What do you expect them to say. Our modest game that we expect to make modest sales from. Everyone oversells their products. That is just how the game is played. Show me the company that is dismissive of their product before they even launch it.

3. Strange I have been looking in on the game from time to time, and would you like to know what I found out about the game. Next to nothing. It looks like a simple old school shooter. Do you think it doesn't look like a old school shooter. That group of games is pretty straight forward. Do tell me how this isn't a blast from the past. While you are at it tell me how it cannot sell by being exactly that. You may not like it, but a lot of people have a fondness for such things.

4. Ohh such a cutting wit you have. Seriously you are arguing that these games are basically the same. If what you are saying is true then the development costs have gone down. No progress means the developers aren't being taxed as they were at the beginning of the generation. They now have years of experience. So that cuts down on trial and error. Plus they have better middle ware at their disposal. Please explain how their being conservative has caused the costs to go up.

5. By the way it has almost zero chance of selling worse then Haze, because it is selling on two platforms. With much larger install bases. It doesn't have to sell gang busters to outsell Haze. They are probably likely to turn a profit, because while it probably wont be the best game on the market. It probably wont be among the worst either.



Such a shame for Insomniac. Fuse appears to be as bland and generic as any other shooter. If only they had kept the title of over strike, with it's comedic and original vibe. I feel that ever since Insomniac has joined forces with the devious demons known as EA, their work has gone downhill... think about it, their recent entries into the ratchet & clank franchise have been shameful atrocities... They are being manipulated, morphed, into a group of individuals who go so far as to not represent what insomniac used to be... a proud company of bodies who brought the experience of a pixar film to my finger tips.



Gonna be honest, all of the negativity about Fuse is kinda sad. The game looks like it'll be pretty fun based on all of the videos I've seen of it. Plus, I have yet to play a game from Insomniac that I haven't liked. I'll definitely be getting this.



Skrunch-a-tron said:
Such a shame for Insomniac. Fuse appears to be as bland and generic as any other shooter. If only they had kept the title of over strike, with it's comedic and original vibe. I feel that ever since Insomniac has joined forces with the devious demons known as EA, their work has gone downhill... think about it, their recent entries into the ratchet & clank franchise have been shameful atrocities... They are being manipulated, morphed, into a group of individuals who go so far as to not represent what insomniac used to be... a proud company of bodies who brought the experience of a pixar film to my finger tips.


yeah, I agree. BTW I love your pic..